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post #51 of 63 Old 01-23-2013
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Do you have sample crew and caption contracts you would be willing to share?
You guys don't waste time with written contracts for crew. A contract will not serve any practical purpose in hiring a casual crew. Unless possibly in a long-term passage (for several months or more) where there will be significant financial commitments on both sides, in which a written contract helps memorialize the financial business. But for trips inside say, a month, a contract will only have the potential of creating more issues than it was intended to resolve. In other words, the captain/crew relationship on a recreational sailboat is not a legal relationship. If you didn't hire the right crew, and your 100 miles offshore, what are you going to do if you have a dispute...file suit?! If you pick the wrong crew then take responsibility for your bad judgment, live out your side of the bargain, and end the relationship as soon as practical.

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You guys don't waste time with written contracts for crew. A contract will not serve any practical purpose in hiring a casual crew. Unless possibly in a long-term passage (for several months or more) where there will be significant financial commitments on both sides, in which a written contract helps memorialize the financial business. But for trips inside say, a month, a contract will only have the potential of creating more issues than it was intended to resolve. In other words, the captain/crew relationship on a recreational sailboat is not a legal relationship. If you didn't hire the right crew, and your 100 miles offshore, what are you going to do if you have a dispute...file suit?! If you pick the wrong crew then take responsibility for your bad judgment, live out your side of the bargain, and end the relationship as soon as practical.
Actually, if the Captain is hiring the crew to do a delivery. The relationship is covered under the Jones Act.
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Jones Act does not apply to a recreational boater who finds a volunteer to sail with him and when not engaged in a commercial activity. My words of advice about contracts was only intended as advice to those of us who are just doing this for fun. In addition, no contract that you might sign with crew would likely change that crew's rights, if he had any, under the Jones Act.

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Please be careful in any dealings with yacht-delivery.com
I am an owner who engaged yacht-delivery.com for a delivery.
So far my and the crews experiences are:
Crew left stranded in Panama.
Crew is still waiting for pay and return flights.
Many lies and never ending broken promises.
Quick in asking for money.
Very difficult to contact. Not contactable by phone.
yacht-delivery.com may have been a reputable company in the past, but is now in the ownership of Stephen Miller (a previous car dealer).
Should you still decide to deal with this company, make sure that you do not pay upfront.
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Please be careful in any dealings with yacht-delivery.com
I am an owner who engaged yacht-delivery.com for a delivery.
So far my and the crews experiences are:
Crew left stranded in Panama.
Crew is still waiting for pay and return flights.
Many lies and never ending broken promises.
Quick in asking for money.
Very difficult to contact. Not contactable by phone.
yacht-delivery.com may have been a reputable company in the past, but is now in the ownership of Stephen Miller (a previous car dealer).
Should you still decide to deal with this company, make sure that you do not pay upfront.
Thanks for the heads up. Can you elaborate more on their short comings?


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Re: Crew, Captain and Owner Feedback

A thread dealing with the same topic issues can be found at,


Cruising yachts behaving if they're doing us a favour


Which has a captains questionnaire and a crew questionnaire advice.

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Please be careful in any dealings with yacht-delivery.com
I am an owner who engaged yacht-delivery.com for a delivery.
So far my and the crews experiences are:
Crew left stranded in Panama.
Crew is still waiting for pay and return flights.
Many lies and never ending broken promises.
Quick in asking for money.
Very difficult to contact. Not contactable by phone.
yacht-delivery.com may have been a reputable company in the past, but is now in the ownership of Stephen Miller (a previous car dealer).
Should you still decide to deal with this company, make sure that you do not pay upfront.
I have had the exact same experience with this company. He has cost me close to 50k GBP and his unpaid crew abandoned my yacht 7000 miles from its destination. When I successfully prosecuted him, he declared insolvency to avoid refunding my money.

His website is still up, but he is writing to Court to state that he is avoiding his responsibilities to pay damages as he is insolvent and winding the company up. He stole my provisioning budget to go skiiing and kept all the fees, even though he did only a 10th of the work.

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Ya got my attention right there, I had crew step on the boat and say "I don't know how to cook", I'd already paid his airfare.
"how bout sandwiches? can you cook them?"
"nope"
"How bout coffee? you drink it you must know how to make it?"
"nope"
"How bout I teach you, french press, you just need to boil water?"
"nope, I don't know how to cook"
I should have bought him a return ticket but had to leave asap.
Ha Ha. I can't cook ither.
I can make something hot. when boat is heel over and pitching.
My special boat curry.
big deep pot.
What ever meet is left in cooler. chop up chuck in pot.
some of each vegitable chop up chuck in pot.
Some potatoes. chop up chuck in pot.
Can of Guiness drink some pour rest in pot. other beers work so does wine and or cider.
canned tomatoes chuck in pot
cannned fruit chuch in pot.

look in spice rack open each bottle of spices in turn regardless of label chuck som in pot.

boil the heck out of it.

When hot serve

tastes great.

any complaints you can cook
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I am single and ready to retire. Last year I bought a new boat (50') and sailed in Chesapeake with friends. Next year I am going to sail all season May through October on the East Coast (Maine here I come), and in November I am thinking about a Rally to Tortola and spend the spring in Caribbean. However, I am not comfortable doing this all by myself so I am considering taking on a crew of at least one, to ensure safe passages and share the work. Is this the place to find people who wants to sail for extended period? Recommendations please?
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Re: Crew, Captain and Owner Feedback

I've moved your post to it's own thread, you'll probably get better response under the new title.

See here:

Crew wanted, East Coast USA and then....??

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