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Not much of a jump... his OP says: "Crew would be expected to watchkeep, take turns at cooking, boat maintenance and would be expected to contribute."

Basically, you're paying for the privilege of working your backside off... While I don't mind watchkeeping or cooking, as those are part and parcel of crewing on a delivery, and even doing minor boat maintenance might be acceptable—but again it shouldn't be part of delivering a boat—which is moving it from Point A to Point B. What I do mind is paying to do so. That just sticks in my craw. Now, if the delivery captain were say, Nick Scandone (RIP) or Dennis Conner...then things are a bit different.
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The jump I've seen that seems a bit much is the assumption that the crew will be ONLY greenhorns that are paying some "nefarious skipper" to have the privilege of working their butts off.

I don't see a lot of evidence that that's the case. So some of this thread seems a bit melodramatic given what's really known.



Like I said above, I'd definitely pay to be part of a seasoned crew and skipper on a Maxi 80. What a ride! Sounds like Dog would too.

Brendan - if you're still around, can you give some more clarification of the situation?
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The owner of the Maxi 80 should be paying for everything! Now if this guy is making money on the crew that he brings then the owner should some research on him before hiring him for such responsibility.
I did a few deliveries and the owner paid for everything. That is the way to make sure your boat will arrive in one piece.
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I love how everyone just jumps to conclusions and attacks this guy based on a single post....
It didn't take much effort to see he's trying to get paid from owner and crew. Again, I wonder if the owner knows what he's up to.
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he actually never said that...but whatever. He says crew would be expected to contribute, he never says contribute financially. This is a pointless thread.
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If the delivery captain is hired and his contract states he is responsible for providing the crew, I would guess that he is being paid to provide the crew, and should be paying the crew himself—not the owner—since he's already paid the captain to provide the crew. If he is not paying the crew, and asking the prospective crew to pay for their passage, it would appear to me he is double-dipping.

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I did a few deliveries and the owner paid for everything. That is the way to make sure your boat will arrive in one piece.
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If the delivery captain is hired and his contract states he is responsible for providing the crew, I would guess that he is being paid to provide the crew, and should be paying the crew himself—not the owner—since he's already paid the captain to provide the crew. If he is not paying the crew, and asking the prospective crew to pay for their passage, it would appear to me he is double-dipping.
That's a hell of a lot of guessing isn't it?

Why don't we wait and hear what the real deal is?
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Actually, it is a lot less guessing than you think. From the OP's website:

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I can supply crew, plan the voyage and 'just get on with it' or I can work with the owner who is always welcome on board to create a voyage plan to his liking. I am happy to 'baby sit' your yacht in Antigua, the Caribbean or elsewhere, provision her and prepare her for an ocean crossing.
From his post, he's trying to supply crew... and wanting to charge the crew tuition for the privilege of working their asses off...

I seriously doubt the OP is providing the crew out of the goodness of his heart. He would have to be really stupid to offer to provide crew and not get paid for it...

He's clearly not paying his crew, from his website:

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Tuition can be arranged for all levels if required and tailored to your needs.
So, it appears pretty clear that he is double-dipping. I'm basing my statements on the OP's own website. So, exactly how much guessing is involved here??? Only an idiot would really interpret this any other way.


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That's a hell of a lot of guessing isn't it?

Why don't we wait and hear what the real deal is?
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