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I wish you a very good vacations and a cool trip, on the end of November, in Açores. But I would not call fun to sail out of Açores in the end of November on a "some years old 36ft cat". Maybe you get lucky, but let me show some videos of Açores on that season:

This one is only some days old:

YouTube - MVI_2233.MOV

This is from =1/01/2010:

País - Está a abater-se forte temporal sobre os Açores - RTP Noticias, Vídeo

This is from 28/12/2009:

Notícias País A Ilha Terceira foi dos locais mais afectados pelo temporal nos Açores 28-12-2009 | VÃ*deos NotÃ*cias | SIC Online

This one is from 08/10/2008:

YouTube - Mau Tempo I

This one on 28/08/2008:

YouTube - viento y lluvia en el mar

Well, at least you know that this one is ready to pick you up...if you don't get lucky

Sailing in Açores seas on a search and rescue mission:

YouTube - (HD) Storm In Azores - Tempestade (NRP Joao Coutinho F475) SAR MAR09

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Paulo
The videos aren't dated November-December. One is March, and another August.
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The videos aren't dated November-December. One is March, and another August.
You mean, all the videos aren't dated November-December?

That one shoot on 28 of August is just to remind that even out of the storm season the Açores seas can be pretty nasty.

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and to be honest. you are the ones why people avoid forums like this. you can only critizize, make things look bad, put stuff in the way. try to be more helpful, i will certainly do you well.

if there´s atime to cross from the azores, then it´s end of nov, beginning of dec. you all know that. it´s not a day on the pond, yes, but it´s the best time.

and now, please...let it go..
Well, certainly not. I think you are referring to the period out of Hurricane season (from June to November), but these are not the only Atlantic storms.

Certainly, end of November or December it is a good time to cross the pond, but not from Açores. On Açores, from October to Mars you are in the rain and stormy season. With a 36ft cat, to cruise the Atlantic you need fair weather and should not risk crossing in a season and in a place where you have a good chance to meet with really bad weather. On this season some of the Islands remain sometimes completely isolated for weeks. The weather is just too bad to risk a crossing and this guys are good sailors. Just look in what conditions they cross and imagine the conditions when they don't risk a crossing :

YouTube - Cruzeiro no Mau tempo

The right time to cross from Açores is after the stormy and raining season and
before the Hurricane season: April and May.

You can cross the Atlantic in December/January but you should go down 750 miles, till you are in front of the African coast. Normally sailors use Canary Islands has a departing point. That's what ARC does.

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Hello there,

I have been hoping to do a transatlantic crossing this november, and
have travelled to Europe specially for this purpose. I am currently in
the Uk seeing family and meeting folk that are Caribbean bound for the
winter.

I live on Nevis, one of the Leeward Islands, and have been sailing
most of my life. I own a 39 foot Corbin, a solid monohull, which I
skipper and have done 3,000 plus miles offshore, including a 10 day
passage. All of this has been shorthanded - myself and a friend. I am
used to 6 hour night watches! I installed a new diesel into the boat
singlehanded, which suggests that I have some mechanical ability. I am
a regular fiberglass worker and love fixing. I am also willing to pay
airfare and my personal consumables. Sorry for all the 'I's, I don't
wish to seem at all self absorbed, because I am easy company and a
kind person! Got a bunch of energy too - I am 27 years old and I am a non smoker (some people require this sort of info).

Should your crew be filled, no worries, but in the instance that you
might be interested in my help, please could you give me some more
information about the boat, its 'redundancy package', the work that as
been done on it and the sort of weather it has been thru; the trans
Atlantic experience of the skipper (and, for that matter any other
offshore experience he/she may have) and anything else that I may have
missed out that would be important to know. It will be a very tough delivery
trip leaving late in November and a shame you could not leave with the
fleet of the ARC because having many other boats in relative proximity
is a redundancy in itself!

Look forward to hearing further,

Charlie
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Generally, the captain is responsible for feeding crew during the actual voyage and for their transport to/from the boat, especially if they're fairly experienced crew and not being paid.

You're looking looking for crew to come along, pay for their share of the food expenses and pay their airfare to/from the boat... no wonder those two bailed. At a minimum, anyone crewing for you is going to be laying out at least $1200 in airfare and then have to pay for food on top of that... WHAT A BARGAIN...
Actually, if the crew is only required to pay for their food and flights the trip is a GREAT BARGAIN. I have friends on 3 different boats that charter the ARC, which is pretty much the trip this fellow is talking about. They charge between $3400 - $5000 per person and the crew is responsible for their own flights to and from. They are all full this year and have advance booking for next years ARC. There are a lot of people on the ARC site that would jump at this chance. Of course that is providing the boat is properly outfitted for an ocean passage.
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...you are absolutely right. and thanks, we will check the ARC homepage. great hint. have a good time..

cheers
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As for all the concern about the weather, the trip from the Canaries to St. Lucia at the end of Nov, beginning of Dec is pretty much a milk run, except for the occaisional squall and they are few and far between. Last year my friends had to jibe once after they started heading west, so I really don't think anyone will be "working their backsides off". Of the dozens of people I have talked to that actually made this trip it was one of the greatest experiences of their lives.
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As for all the concern about the weather, the trip from the Canaries to St. Lucia at the end of Nov, beginning of Dec is pretty much a milk run, except for the occaisional squall and they are few and far between. Last year my friends had to jibe once after they started heading west, so I really don't think anyone will be "working their backsides off". Of the dozens of people I have talked to that actually made this trip it was one of the greatest experiences of their lives.
They are not going from Canary, but from Azores, that are 750 nautical miles to the North.

There is a famous Transat race that at the first and second weeks of November passes near Azores. Almost in every edition they experiment strong winds and many times big storms when they pass in that area. On the 2002 edition 3 60ft racing cats capsized there and they had already their sails down. I know that a cruising cat is not a racing cat, but come on, a 36 ft cat on winds over 70K and huge seas? Would you risk a fair possibility of encountering those conditions?

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They are not going from Canary, but from Azores, that are 750 nautical miles to the North.

There is a famous Transat race that at the first and second weeks of November passes near Azores. Almost in every edition they experiment strong winds and many times big storms when they pass in that area. On the 2002 edition 3 60ft racing cats capsized there and they had already their sails down. I know that a cruising cat is not a racing cat, but come on, a 36 ft cat on winds over 70K and huge seas? Would you risk a fair possibility of encountering those conditions?

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I know they original post said the Azores, however checking the Azores page on wiki there is no Gran Canaria shown in the Azores. On a tourism page for the Azores, they lump the Azores, Maderia and the Canaries all together so this may be where the confusion comes from. Anyone with any sense would sail south and pick up the trades to cross, adding only 5 days or so to the trip. Also the first and second weeks of Nov are just at the end of the storm season which may be why they are hitting those conditions.
And actually anytime you go offshore you risk encountering storm conditions it is just the nature of the business.
Does anyone know if there is a Gran Canaria in the Azores or perhaps the original poster can clarify if they are leaving fron the Azores proper or Gran Canaria in the Canaries.
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I know they original post said the Azores, however checking the Azores page on wiki there is no Gran Canaria shown in the Azores. On a tourism page for the Azores, they lump the Azores, Maderia and the Canaries all together so this may be where the confusion comes from. Anyone with any sense would sail south and pick up the trades to cross, adding only 5 days or so to the trip. Also the first and second weeks of Nov are just at the end of the storm season which may be why they are hitting those conditions.
And actually anytime you go offshore you risk encountering storm conditions it is just the nature of the business.
Does anyone know if there is a Gran Canaria in the Azores or perhaps the original poster can clarify if they are leaving fron the Azores proper or Gran Canaria in the Canaries.
No, Azores is an archipelago, Canary Islands also. Canary Islands are about 750 NM to the South of Azores. Gran Canaria is one of the Islands of the Canary achipelago.

VISITAZORES.ORG

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