Crew need NY - St. Thomas

[AjariBonten]

I certainly did not intend to besmirch your good name, my apologies if it was taken in that manner.

As you said in your reply, you spend most of your time sailing and not chatting on the Internet; so I'll explain how these things apply to this conversation.

Post Count: Certainly, a low post count is no indicator of your sailing abilities, etc.; just as a high post count is no guarantee as well. However, you are soliciting crew on an Internet site. The only reputation you have in this venue is built through interaction in this location. Someone who posts frequently, giving advice that can be evaluated, relating stories that either do or do not make sense, telling jokes and building relationships; all of these things combine to build a picture of you as an individual that we might, or might not, have faith in.

This ties in with what I referred to as the "bad reputation" factor. True enough, one negative encounter does not a reputation make. However, it is the only encounter that we have to judge by. I sporting terms, you are 1 and 0.

English being your 4th language you might not understand that reference; it mens that we have seen 1 negative and 0 positive. Again, if you were a more frequent contributor here we might see for ourselves the validity of both the claims against you or the validity of your rebuttal.

Remember, as you are requesting crew; you are selling yourself, your boat, and the experience of sailing on her. Just as you would like to know more about potential crew; they need to know that you are a serious and steadfast fellow, and that you will not place them in harms way.

My suggestions were simply some of several means by which you might in some way establish that before someone makes the commitment to clear time and travel to your location to make the final decision after meeting you.

Sorry if I offended.
Fred

[camaraderie]

Someone who posts frequently, giving advice that can be evaluated, relating stories that either do or do not make sense, telling jokes and building relationships; all of these things combine to build a picture of you as an individual that we might, or might not, have faith in.

Yeah...but even with ALL that information...some guys signed on to sail with Giu!! So there is hope for you Capn'Kris!! (g)

[Giulietta]

Someone who posts frequently, giving advice that can be evaluated, relating stories that either do or do not make sense, telling jokes and building relationships; all of these things combine to build a picture of you as an individual that we might, or might not, have faith in.

Who called me????

Originally Posted by camaraderie

Yeah...but even with ALL that information...some guys signed on to sail with Giu!! So there is hope for you Capn'Kris!! (g)

The only difference is I can't sail, ....Fred does all the sailing.....

Actually, not joking now....I am what you see....that's why they came over.....they could see me thru sailnet, and meeting me in person was just a confirmation....I can't sail for ****.....Fred does....

[chucklesR]

Gui,
Motored all the way? oh yeah, that's a monohull, explains all the heeling the pic's, even without sails up.

captkris - find another place to look for crew, your rep here is blown as bad as your writing/grammar.

[Giulietta]

Hey Cam....did you change my post???
you "#$%&/()(/&%$#%&/#"&%

"#$%&/())(/$"#$%&/()=??)(/&%$#"!"#

[AjariBonten]

Originally Posted by Giulietta

[b]Actually, not joking now....I am what you see....that's why they came over.....they could see me thru sailnet, and meeting me in person was just a confirmation...

Hey Alex, that is EXACTLY what I was getting at.... Some people never understand that. (See my post on a similar subject on the "Off Topic/Missing Members thread) And with the nature of sailing, the stakes of determining that reputation can be much higher than in many forums.

There are many people here I think I might like to sail/cruse with, either on the same boat or in convoy; but we are a conservative lot. (or should be)

Think about it; would you trust the abilities of a crewmember who would come halfway across the country (not to mention, the world) without asking the questions I asked of CaptKris?


BTW, you have a beautiful boat, handsome kids, and apparently an admirable jois-de-vive. (sp?) Nice to meetcha.

Fred

[equitiman]

I think you guys are being too hard on CaptKris. He has come onto this thread and done a fair job owning up to the mistakes of Kacper's vist. I don't find the tone of his posts to be the least bit combative...and he seems like he wants to make amends and move on. The truth of the matter is of course somewhere between Kacper's and CaptKris' description of events.

If I were going to crew for someone, I would want to make sure both the boat and the captain are qualified. Lest we forget, Kacper did say that he had no doubts that CaptKris was an excellent sailor and would not hesitate to do a crossing with him were it not for the state of his boat.

I say just give the man a break! Based on his posts, he sounds like a nice guy who made a mistake. Just because someone makes a mistake doesn't mean he should be written off.

Bob

[AjariBonten]

Hey, E-Man.

I mostly agree with you. I was actually trying to assist C-K in overcoming the shortcomings of his language barrier and suggesting ways he could counter a general lack of information.

I wasn't trying to give him a hard time, but you have to admit that the information available is not the most complimentary. If "I" were here looking for crew, I would fully expect the hard questions.

As for combative, one of his early posts was somewhat so. (I can't look far enough back while posting to copy/paste; but it was maybe his second or third on this thread, after Kacper was brought up.) Now, maybe that was a language thing; but communication, and communication style, is very important in a prospective captain, as well as in crew.

My only point is that more questions than answers have been generated.

Fred

[Giulietta]

I have comunication problems too.....sometimes the English doesn't come out the way I want...

who wants to sail with me???

[AjariBonten]

Actually Alex, thanks for posting that; as you are a very good illustration of my point.

I do not "know" you. We've never met, or spoken on the telephone, and have had very few interactions on the net. Yet I would very gladly sail with you. Why? It's your pretty face, LMAO

No, seriously.
I have seen photos of your boat.
I have read many posts by you where you have expressed opinions enough for me to judge that we might get along.
I have heard reports of others who have sailed with you, and I have read enough of their thoughts, etc. to have a measure of faith in their judgement.
You have been here long enough for me to see consistency.
I have read technical information you have written that indicates to me a good understanding of sailing, enough that I would likely feel safe sailing with you.

Now, would I jump on a plane tomorrow to go sailing with you? Probably not without having more conversations; but certainly I feel I know a lot more about you than I do of someone who has posted here 10 or 11 times.

Now, if you would invite me, seriously, today, knowing how little you know of me; I would question your judgment. Not because I have any doubts about myself; but because I know that you cannot know enough about me to make a judgment.

Anyone who expects to be taken on faith, with as little information available as is there for C-Kris, has a ridiculous set of expectations. That fact alone makes me question at least part of his judgment.

Now if this is being hard on him, so be it. It is a hard world and we need to look out for ourselves, as well as each other.

Fred