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Re: Electronics overkill?

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Absolutly 100% must have is:
AIS Transponder
ECN chartplotter/PC etc that runs AIS
VHF
EPIRB
Autopilot.


Not necessary:
Radar
SSB radio

Remember two boats have been lost doing transatlantic this year, one at least looks like it was hit by a ship. You really need AIS its the only thing that can show ships where you are as opposed to showing only you where ships are.
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Unless the ship/ boat is a fishing vessel in which case it doesn't carry AIS . I think the radar and AIS are equally important.

Comming into NY Harbor at night last year about 25 ships showed up on AIS while there were 45 others with additional radar signatures. Just going on the AIS would have been useless and / or more dangerous.
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Unless the ship/ boat is a fishing vessel in which case it doesn't carry AIS . I think the radar and AIS are equally important.

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Come on. Gotta grow up a bit!

Fishing boats use it. Especially ocean going ones. Its obligitaory in the Med where the OP is coming from.

If any dont use it then they are costal USA boats that also should grow a brain before they are legislated to have one.

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Re: Electronics overkill?

I enjoy having my radar, GPS and depthsounder, but we did coastal cruising from North Florida to the Keys and the Bahamas for twenty years without these. We always had the VHF, but we never had an occasion to use it in an emergency. We did use a lead line and an RDF.
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Re: Electronics overkill?

Seems like there's very little use of VHF/CH16 in the Caribbean chain....

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You do not need any electronics. Although we belive electronics makes our lives easier and safer, this is not the case. The amount of accidents increased worldwide after the introduction of electronic devices for boats.
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Seems like there's very little use of VHF/CH16 in the Caribbean chain....
Compared with the USA you can say that in spades. But that doesnt mean theres tooooo little in the Caribbean. It more likely means theres quite a LOT in the USA!

I 'spose folks wanna get their moneys worth for the $200 VHF from Westmarine. They do that.

(and you'd think the Coast Guard paid more for theirs! Cant keep them off it. And where did they learn to talk that fast... can you guys understand them? I canna!)
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You do not need any electronics. Although we belive electronics makes our lives easier and safer, this is not the case. The amount of accidents increased worldwide after the introduction of electronic devices for boats.
Sounds like you need to check out this thread, starting about here....Coast Guard rescues 4 "sailors" off Charleston...

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.....(and you'd think the Coast Guard paid more for theirs! Cant keep them off it. And where did they learn to talk that fast... can you guys understand them? I canna!)
Can't always understand them, but to my annoyance I can usually hear CG group Puget Sound warning me of dredging or whatnot in Anacortes when I'm 100NM away in Desolation Sound!!
.. every 15 minutes!!
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You do not need any electronics. Although we belive electronics makes our lives easier and safer, this is not the case. The amount of accidents increased worldwide after the introduction of electronic devices for boats.
Do you have stats to back up this contention?

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