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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

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This is why these threads rarely result in good answers. There is no general answer b/c it depends on each person's lifestyle, their boat, their choices, and what they consider needs vs wants.

It's the same as asking how much it costs to live on land -- it depends. It depends on where you live, the kind of house you have, your lifestyle choices, what your needs are, etc.

To answer the "how much does it cost" question I think you need to specify the general boat size, the location you're cruising in, the size of crew, their lifestyle needs, and likely a bunch more parameters I'm not thinking of right now. To borrow from fine literature, you need to know the ultimate question before you can understand the ultimate answer.
And, on my cruise, I saw people living on a lot less than I was spending, and people who were living on a lot more. On the same size boats, and in the same places.

It's a fact of life. Some people just spend more than others.
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

In the last 6 years I've NEVER stayed at a slip. There are $55/night mooring balls up here that already cuts into the beer budget too much.

But I believe last I looked it up that moorings were around $300/mo in Key West.
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

Another point is listening to someone talk about how much air conditioning, or a macerator, can costs to repair, like every sailboat out there has air conditioning and electric heads.

I have a friend who could point out how much it cost to keep his two jet skis running when he was cruising and how it would be a disaster if someone didn't budget those kinds of repairs into their cruising budget.
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I have a friend who could point out how much it cost to keep his two jet skis running

hate the rich a-holes that rub it in our faces when we have to take turns or share rides on ours
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

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So CD... if you tallied up your costs for one month say in Key West or Key Biscayne... are you in the $4500-5000 a month club (more costs in the Caribbean) more or less and reduces as you come back up the east coast?



I'm curious as that is what my wife and I would like to do albeit on a smaller craft (32-35 ft), your numbers seem more realistic than some others here and I trust it as you've cruised it already.

Hehe, well, just so you know, the last time we were in KW we spent about 2500 in a week between slip, gifts, bars and food. That was quite the exception though. Key West is also exceptionally high. A cheaper way out is the mooring field, but it has to be the worst mooring field anywhere. It is completely open to the north and a long, wet ride to the dinghy dock. I think they also hit you for some ridiculous $$ for tying up to the dinghy dock too. Basically, the ball was not something I would plan on spending much time at there.

Marathon mooring field, however, is fabulous. I am typing from here now. Completely protected on all sides and the balls are maintained very well. That runs about 350ish/month and includes dinghy dock and 1 pumpout a week where the come to your boat. If you choose a marina here, it runs as low as $19.75/ft up to 22.50/ft. Food is more expensive down here too as is gas and pretty much everything else. But we love it here.
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

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Hehe, well, just so you know, the last time we were in KW we spent about 2500 in a week between slip, gifts, bars and food. That was quite the exception though. Key West is also exceptionally high. A cheaper way out is the mooring field, but it has to be the worst mooring field anywhere. It is completely open to the north and a long, wet ride to the dinghy dock. I think they also hit you for some ridiculous $$ for tying up to the dinghy dock too. Basically, the ball was not something I would plan on spending much time at there.

Marathon mooring field, however, is fabulous. I am typing from here now. Completely protected on all sides and the balls are maintained very well. That runs about 350ish/month and includes dinghy dock and 1 pumpout a week where the come to your boat. If you choose a marina here, it runs as low as $19.75/ft up to 22.50/ft. Food is more expensive down here too as is gas and pretty much everything else. But we love it here.
Thanks CD... I seen the fees for Key West moorage and slip fees... currently they want $24.43/ft/month for recreational slip and transient fees of $44/ft/month (that would be us) or $2.75/ft/day and dinghy dockage of $6.00/day or $26.50/week and $80/month. It amplifies more if there is a special event going on... but they have a good amount of amenities some other marinas don't have.

I didn't have Key West on my list of places to go except for maybe a week or less... but it's an eye opener for what the real world is charging in terms of transient voyagers.
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Are we talking livaboard...at the dock...or cruising?
Brian, first thing you mentioned is marina fees. Most of us out cruising spend little time at marinas. Less than 15 days per year is quite easy most of the time for most of us. Mostly.

15 days is one marina stop a month, or a tad over. That seems very low to me. How are you making your water last a month at a time? Watermaker? Seems there are a lot of places i would not run that. What about showers? You need hot water for showers. Generator or main? How are you keeping up with your power?

There are workarounds to these things. We have not been in a marina since The end of October. But we have also invested in the systems to make it work outside of one: generator, 780 watts solar, good tender, etc. I also prefer to keep a clean boat (wash it once a week or so), we prefer to shower aboard, etc. Others may not care about that stuff.

I am not here to tell anyone "this is how you should cruise". Instead, it is how we do it and make it work. I suspect that most of those in the 500 crowd will be in for some real surprises when reality kicks in, or they will be forced to live in a level of comfort most of us would not consider. I suspect that will lead to a very short cruise.

Understand, if I was taking a 6 month hiatus then i would just deal with a lot more lack of comfort. But we have been doing this a long, long time and the reason we have made it work (for us) was that we saw the boat as our home and we were determined to make our home comfortable to our level of standards. Others have a different level. But most of the folks which we have run across cruising on the cheap have generally had a very short timeline in which they would be on the boat and were willing to do without many creature comforts. We have no end, per se.

Another point about marinas, they allow you to run air conditioning. How are you going to get around ac unless you sail pretty far north for the summer? You have to be pretty hardcore down here to go without air conditioning in the summer. I suspect that Chesapeake south would be very, very uncomfortable. And while we could sail north, we actually prefer the keys in the summer so that is not an option for us right now. So the summer months land us in a marina full-time.
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In the last 6 years I've NEVER stayed at a slip. There are $55/night mooring balls up here that already cuts into the beer budget too much.

But I believe last I looked it up that moorings were around $300/mo in Key West.

Are you a fulltime cruiser and you never stayed at a slip in 6 years? Have you ever spent any time on those balls in Key West? They SUCK in the winter as they are wide open to the north, and in the summer, when our winds are light and the lows (LOWS) hit about 85, they are miserable. And have i mentioned the no-seeums that can fit through your screens? The typical screens do not stop No-seeums and while you can get the screens that do, they are so tight they shut down the air flow. If you sleep out in the cockpit as many try, you will wake up the next morning looking like you have measles and will be a piny low of blood. You will wake up soaking wet with sweat.

If that is ok with you, as it is with some, no problem. But I am curious how long that will last?
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Another point is listening to someone talk about how much air conditioning, or a macerator, can costs to repair, like every sailboat out there has air conditioning and electric heads.



I have a friend who could point out how much it cost to keep his two jet skis running when he was cruising and how it would be a disaster if someone didn't budget those kinds of repairs into their cruising budget.

Just so ya know, a macerator is the pump which empties your black water holding tank. It has NOTHING to do with a electric head.

No air conditioning eh? Spoken like someone who has never spent a month down here in the summer. You telling me I should not have air conditioning is like me telling you that you don't need a heater in winter... Right? Just put on a pair of socks and a jacket to keep warm. It is the same comparison. The heat down here is lethal and takes lives every year. As i said above, the winds are light and the humidity is hovering around 100%. It is very, very uncomfortable. Can you get used to it? Sure. But you will have many nights where you sleep soaking wet in sweat and are chewed up with mosquitos or noseeums.

Very, very few people down here go without ac. Those that do are pretty tough and have acclimated to it. Have you acclimated to it and can you as a cruiser?
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Thanks CD... I seen the fees for Key West moorage and slip fees... currently they want $24.43/ft/month for recreational slip and transient fees of $44/ft/month (that would be us) or $2.75/ft/day and dinghy dockage of $6.00/day or $26.50/week and $80/month. It amplifies more if there is a special event going on... but they have a good amount of amenities some other marinas don't have.



I didn't have Key West on my list of places to go except for maybe a week or less... but it's an eye opener for what the real world is charging in terms of transient voyagers.

KW Is a cool place. We like it, but we have kids and is not very kid friendly after dark. If we didnt have kids, we would spend more time there.
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