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. We south floridians love it when you guys who are opposed to air conditioning sail north.
Please show me where I said I was opposed to air conditioning? I grew up in the desert where it would be 110 and 90% humidly, sometimes the wind would blow and that just made it dusty out. Lighten up some.

If you weren't talking about me please quote someone else when doing your posts.
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Well, there you go. We obviously have differently designed systems. My electric head has a built in macerator. I also have a macerator on the pump out for the holding tank, as well as for the pump out for the holding tank of the aft manual head (which does not have an integral macerator).

Once you take a few of these things apart, you learn that kind of thing.

And, I grew up in Mississippi and we're probably a little more heat and humidity tolerant that people from farther up north. I've got an air conditioner, and I've had them on other boats, too, but the boat I have now, is the first boat I ever had with one I could run anywhere but at the dock.

Believe me, if you don't have AC you learn pretty quick how to anchor to get the breeze and to avoid the no-see-ums.

Yeah right. For some reason, I thought this thread was about reality instead of theory. Brother, boating and cruising is all i have done my adult life and had kids aboard damn near birth over thirteen years ago!

When a boater mentions a macerator pump, it is generally assumed the pump which dumps the crap out of your holding tank. My electric heads also have a macerator, but not all electric heads do (or did you know that???). It was the macerator on the black water tank which failed. The seal between the motor and the pump broke and was leaking crap water into the boat. That is an immediate break-fix unless you don't mind your boat smelling like an outhouse. If you are ok with that, fine.

I grew up in East Texas where 90 plus days over 100 were common and the asphalt melts and throws up on your car. I understand heat too. But i have zero interest in surviving on my boat. This is supposed to be fun, right? So when it is not fun we find a way and place to fix it. Even the die-hards down here that grew up down here have a problem with the heat. You want to come down here and sleep in your sweat and anchored out to save a buck... Fine. Maybe you should consider going back to the 500 thread? This is supposed to be about reality and fun. Come spend a decade down here anchored out and then you or anyone else can lecture me about not needing ac. I am 14 years cruising this coast and running and giving you guys reality instead of bs. You want BS, go read another thread.

I would also love to hear your wives comments about sleeping in your sweat for time on end. Lets see how that works out for ya. And my kids probably have more time offshore and cruising on a boat than everyone on the thread added up.

I thought this thread was about reality???? I have been up front that what i do and the costs and that may not be what everyone does, that is fine. I have no problem with that. But if you would rather me blow smoke and give you the party-line from the magazines, brokers, or those whose cruising has been in summed into months versus years, i can do that too. My point was to give you real costs and instead of a shred of appreciation, i get crap about not knowing what the hell i am doing when my kids know more about boating than probably everyone on this thread.

In fact, the more i think about it, all you rich guys cruising on more than $500 a month are unrealistic and need to read my newest fiction novel. It is called, "rich guys suck and you can cruise the world like a king on $500 if you know how to anchor out in the wind."

Best seller that. May not get a lot of buyers for the second edition though.
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So do I. I move when i want. I dont want to so i make it work. That is cruising to me. We south floridians love it when you guys who are opposed to air conditioning sail north. The summer is the absolute best time down here but we generally keep that secret to ourselves. In summer, everything is green, you can dive or snorkel without a wet suit, the water clears up... But wait, I shouldn't have told you that, right? Because Maine is calling. Please ignore this post.
Wait a minute. I thought you were the one that said you had to have air conditioning?


I'm not opposed to A/C. Just don't tell me I can't live without it on the hook, because some people can't.

Heat and humidity are definitely something you can get used to (if that wasn't true, I would have missed out on one of the best jobs I ever had). If you couldn't I would have dropped dead working summers doing construction when in college. To me, the absolute worst thing you can do is go back and forth from air conditioning to outside heat. That's knowing that from living in a lot of hot places, including Miami.
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most cruisers cruise. You might try getting out once in a while.

we do not use a watermaker. When we stop for fuel, the fuel docks always provide free water. In most of the harbors up north there is free access to a town dock with free water. We carry about 110 gallons of water and never come close to running out. We always shower aboard every 2 to 3 days.
Plenty of electricity from engine alternator, solar panels, wind gen and honda 2k when necessary. And we run a very large refrig.
we never use our aircon, no need to up north at anchor.

We have 4 aboard, not 2 as you well know. And as you well know from fb, we are sitting still in marathon because we have finally met a large group of kids and the boys love it here. Can i move on? Absolutely. Will I? Not yet. My kids love it here.

I have been very upfront about our circumstances. However, i dont agree with you on the water usage. But we will leave it at that. I gave this thread our reality which was quickly crapped on. So my newest line is that anyone who cannot cruise on $500/month has issues.
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We have 4 aboard, not 2 as you well know. And as you well know from fb, we are sitting still in marathon because we have finally met a large group of kids and the boys love it here. Can i move on? Absolutely. Will I? Not yet. My kids love it here.

I have been very upfront about our circumstances. However, i dont agree with you on the water usage. But we will leave it at that. I gave this thread our reality which was quickly crapped on. So my newest line is that anyone who cannot cruise on $500/month has issues.
I have to admit that at this point, I am completely lost on whether you and I agree or disagree.
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

Isn't this the $3000/mo thread? That is what it says at the top of my screen.
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Another point is listening to someone talk about how much air conditioning, or a macerator, can costs to repair, like every sailboat out there has air conditioning and electric heads.

This was the post i was referring to. If this was a tongue-in-cheek then please accept my apologies. I have not followed the 500 thread because it is absurd.

Down here, not every boat has ac. But those that do not have a hard time in the summer. I would love to poll them against wanting ac versus not. They live without it because they have no other choice.

If i offended you i apologize. I just saw this thread as a great opportunity to discuss how people cruise and reality versus some bs by those who have never done it or have not done it long. Jaysus, this is our lives. I am giving our real-world numbers. Suddenly i feel like all eyes are criticizing me and i feel like you guys are thinking we are rich. I have seen rich in my previous life. That ain't us. We are just a middle class family which has committed itself boating from the beginning. Not everyone will agree with us. Not everyone will do it as we have or should. But there are some things which we hold strong to from experience that I wish others would at least take into consideration versus dismissing out of hand.
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

I would pay $500 per month just to avoid having to go to Key West. Been twice. Set a margarita record of some sort at Sloppy Joe's once. Never going back. Marathon sounds nice, will have to put that on my list. I've been to Key Largo (Ocean Reef club). You'll need $500 for dinner.
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I would pay $500 per month just to avoid having to go to Key West. Been twice. Set a margarita record of some sort at Sloppy Joe's once. Never going back. Marathon sounds nice, will have to put that on my list. I've been to Key Largo (Ocean Reef club). You'll need $500 for dinner.

Hey Minne,

I love kw. The butterfly consortium is fabulous. I could walk the fort for hours. Incredible history (but not as good as the Tortugas). Hemingway, a stroll down the historic distric, and quite frankly, we have met some of tje nicest and most traveled cruisers in our life there. However, kw has a night life not conducive to kids. So it is not for us. If the schools didnt suck, we would buy a house there and base there. But... They are not great and we would have to private which we might anyways.

Kw by boat is a completely different experience. Hope you at least try it one day. A lot of fun. When you do, let me know. I will but the first round at Kevins.
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