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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

Brian- I for one really appreciate hearing your experience and slant on reality. You go man!!!. Still, wonder about the energy budget. I now know I can get by with no fuel use running everything including the entertainment systems without ever turning on an engine ( genset or other). I envisioned turning on the AC for 1-2h just before bed most days. Is this realistic in the Florida/Bahama/Caribe region? There's just two of us with occasional four aboard so figure water making will be limited to rarely occurring when outside U.S. waters. Don't mind slips but like not having neighbors at least most of the tme. Do you think its necessary to have more than one unit in a 40-50' boat for your region? How many BTUs of cooling make things livable?
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

CD, the thing I disliked the most was going for a walk in the morning. We're early risers and like to head out for a walk, find coffee, whatever. I found it almost impossible not to stumble over beer bottles and drunks still sleeping it off on the street. Same both times I was there. Is that normal?

The night life was as you describe. Fun the first time, got old quickly the second time, no need to repeat.
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We have 4 aboard, not 2 as you well know. And as you well know from fb, we are sitting still in marathon because we have finally met a large group of kids and the boys love it here. Can i move on? Absolutely. Will I? Not yet. My kids love it here.

I have been very upfront about our circumstances. However, i dont agree with you on the water usage. But we will leave it at that. I gave this thread our reality which was quickly crapped on. So my newest line is that anyone who cannot cruise on $500/month has issues.
sorry about the tone, didnt come out the way I thought it would.
I still dont think a family of 4 would need a watermaker for coastal cruising. What is your tankage? We saw a half dozen kid boats anchored in Newport harbor this summer. If water access is what is keeping you tied to the dock, you need to rethink that. As I mentioned, there are plenty of town docks you can pull the boat up to and fill water tanks. In Newport they have a water float in the middle of the harbor. Free water.
Saw kid boats in the Bahamas where water is harder to come by but they were making do.

I jumped on this because you seemed to be inferring a boat with 4 people couldnt coastal cruise without suffering a water shortage. Again, between fuel stops where water is available, free town docks where water is available and an occasional stop at a marina where you can wash the boat and fill up...there is quite a bit of water accessable. If you're burning thru 50 gallons a day then you need to stay tied to the dock.

I think it is necesssry for people to differentiate between livaboard at the dock vs cruising. Big difference in lifestyles and costs
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I would pay $500 per month just to avoid having to go to Key West. Been twice. Set a margarita record of some sort at Sloppy Joe's once. Never going back. Marathon sounds nice, will have to put that on my list. I've been to Key Largo (Ocean Reef club). You'll need $500 for dinner.
That was my impression as well, when I lived and boated in Miami. I went a couple of times and despite a few nice tourist attractions, decided that what was going on there, just wasn't exactly my cup of tea. I really don't even think it's that great for boating.

Now, the rest of the Keys, are wonderful, as far as I'm concerned. On land, and on the water.
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

I love hearing about and learning from the experiences of guys who are out there doing it. For those of you posting real experience, do not think for a minute that I am critical of some detail or opinion. That pales in comparison, same thing with the quibbling. Its usually a misunderstanding. Know that I ( and I am sure many others) truly appreciate the sharing of information.

I have been to key west many times by land and I like it but my wife usualy has a melt down after a day or two because of all the tourist traffic and drunks. So we end up back at Lorelei in Islamorada. I think if we were on a boat she would get enough time for decompression. we could stay on the hook once in a while but I am thinking a marina slip would be best for her.

We will have somewhere between 3 - 4 k/ month to spend when we go. We will have to spend less then $100k for the boat. Probably closer to $50k. Cash. Depends on if we sell the house back here or keep it.

We will have free health insurance. With the boat paid for and $3k +/ month budget will I have to avoid and worry about such attractive tourist traps? If I have to get too stressed out about the money it won't be worth it.
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Down here, not every boat has ac. But those that do not have a hard time in the summer. I would love to poll them against wanting ac versus not. They live without it because they have no other choice.
In 2018 2019 Deb and I are headed down south to kw. Do you think a generator will work to keep us cool in the hottest part of the day? Of is that not the efficient way to stay cool? the C&C 30 has only the basic stuff and with out a/c. So I need to way to keep her comfortable. Or is it better to stay north when its dead of summer? We will not have $3,000 a month to spend. in fact unless something changes, it looks like we will only have $1,200 to $1500 a month. so very little dock time will be in that price? I have a little Honda 2000 gen. We will keep our home in SC rented out while we are on our 5 year cruise.
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Is 2018 2019 Deb and I are headed down south to kw. Do you think a generator will work to keep us cool in the hottest part of the day? Of is that not the efficient way to stay cool? the C&C 30 has only the basic stuff and with out a/c. So I need to way to keep her comfortable. Or is it better to stay north when its dead of summer? We will not have $3,000 a month to spend. in fact unless something changes, it looks like we will only have $1,200 to $1500 a month. so very little dock time will be in that price? I have a little Honda 2000 gen. We will keep our home in SC rented out while we are on our 5 year cruise.
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The best thing to keep a sailboat cool in the summer is shade. On my boat, I have awnings that cover it from the bow to the stern with a lot of overhang. I learned that back from boating in boats that didn't have generators.

I have two ACs and a 4.5 KW genset on my boat, and awnings, and I prefer the awnings. Awnings are the kind of thing you may not see on a boat on its first trip down south, but they usually will be there on the second trip (think how much nicer it is under your bimini, and then think about the whole boat being shaded). I have custom made ones now, but back in the day, I used to use those cheap blue plastic tarps (they didn't last but one season usually, but it was cheap to buy more).

I like being outdoors. I don't cruise to be shut up in a boat with the AC going all day. I can do that at home.

The big thing you have to prepare for, anywhere down south from June to September, when boating and living on the boat, is hurricanes. They don't come that often, but you don't want to be the guy with no idea of what to do, and no place to go, when one does show up. Hurricanes are really the only negative in the south in the summer for me.
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I definately agree with the awnings! I use tarps when anchored on my boat and it really helps. Texas summers are really hot and getting in the water with some shade over you helps too. I look at those big catamarans and think to myself 'man, it would sure be nice to be floating under that bridge deck with a cool drink' at anchor. LOL

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CD, the thing I disliked the most was going for a walk in the morning. We're early risers and like to head out for a walk, find coffee, whatever. I found it almost impossible not to stumble over beer bottles and drunks still sleeping it off on the street. Same both times I was there. Is that normal?

The night life was as you describe. Fun the first time, got old quickly the second time, no need to repeat.

Did you go by boat? Completely different. People are very friendly and helpful.
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