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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

Are the rules the same with big difference under/over 50' true LOA now the new canal is open?
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Wow, refit costs are much less than I would have thought. That is encouraging. I have always thought sails and running rigging were only good for about 5 years of constant use and standing rigging was ready for replacement every 10 years of constant use.
You don't sail around the world and then refit. You take advantage of opportunities when you see them. For example, we replaced our wire/rope main halyards in South Africa because the local rope manufacturer (Southern Ropes) had a terrific price on Dyneema.

I think from your questions you are looking for really clear, exact answers for things like budgeting. It does not work that way. We are all different and and our boats are all different. If you have an older diesel (ours is 1990 and 4000 hours) it can be working just fine one day and need a rebuild the next - or it might be fine for five more years - how do you build things like that into the budget. We travelled fairly cheaply (probably $1500 a month) but we have a good nest-egg available if we have a costly repair or want to head off for a couple of weeks in New Zealand or South Africa. Everyone's mileage will vary.
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

Panama answers:
We were there in 2010 so things may have changed. To be clear, there are two gets of costs: the Canal and the country.
Canal - You can check online to see the charges. What can really boost these are the extra things you can spend money on, like using an agent, hiring line handlers, lines and fenders. These can easily cost as much as what the canal charges. We did everything DIY and our total costs (including buying a cell phone and time) were about $15 beyond the canal fee.
They do measure your boat and if there is any way to get under 50 feet (counting everything that sticks out) it is well worth the effort. Our 45 footer measured 48.5 because of the anchor roller and Monitor vane (with the blade down for the measure; with it up it would have been more and very close to 50). We had friends with a 44' cat who removed their sprit. Removing davits would be a great idea if you are close.

- Country: It is not one charge, but they hit you for everything and at every opportunity. There are officials for immigration, health, port captains, biosecurity (I know I am missing some). After we did the canal we went to fuel up at the marina in Balboa and three more officials showed up. It was $30 for this and $75 for that. They all went out of their way to say how it could be more but they were being nice to you. I loved the Latin American countries we visited but the officials are a PITA.
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

so what was it for the boat and you and your crew?

back in 2000 it was about 150 for boat and another 100 per crew or so...

Im not talking canal...just entering panama

interested cause Im planning to go there again sometime this year
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

That was for boat and two of us. We entered in the San Blas and then went to Colon. Went back to the office in the San Blas to check out because you have to check in and out in each district. The port captain wrote something on our entry permit and signed an stamped it - no charge. When we got to Colon we were fined for not having the proper exit permit from San Blas. Turns out the fine was less than the cost of the exit permit (fine was $25 and permit was $30). Later on we got in trouble because we did not have 'mariners' visas'. No one when we checked in in the San Blas or in Colon mentioned this but it became a big issue in Balboa. Don't know if there is a way around this, but it just goes to show that not everyone gets the same treatment in the same ports at (almost) the same time.
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Re: $3000/mo cruising budget

well thats 100 percent true

we went up the pacific from perlas...simple enough back then, in fact pretty lax as I stayed with the boat even overtsayed my visa and crew left for the states and came back a year later...we left with same boat...

it was not expensive at the time and the canal all said and done after refund of deposit was around 800 for a 30 footer

heard that went way up a few years ago too

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well thats 100 percent true

we went up the pacific from perlas...simple enough back then, in fact pretty lax as I stayed with the boat even overtsayed my visa and crew left for the states and came back a year later...we left with same boat...

it was not expensive at the time and the canal all said and done after refund of deposit was around 800 for a 30 footer

heard that went way up a few years ago too

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Our cost for the canal was not much more than that. The cost increase for >50' was huge; not so bad below.but still an increase.
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