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post #11 of 14 Old 06-14-2006
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Well said.

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Free, is the heart, that lives not, in fear.
Full, is the spirit, that thinks not, of falling.
True, is the soul, that hesitates not, to give.
Alive, is the one, that believes, in love.

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how big?

I did weekending with my two children and their father when the kids were smallish. Three kids would have overwhelmed the sleeping quarters.

My husband's 30' sloop here in CA would have worked easily for coastal weekends. If any of you want a classic plastic that's cheap, just walk the docks in the CA Delta and pick up an abandoned boat in need of rescue. M. got his 25 footer--I'm sorry, I'm having a senior moment trying to remember the builder, but Tania Aebi circimnavigated in a 27 footer of the same make--for a couple of hundred dollars. It needed work to the tune of about $2000. But it wasn't good for a family--it was fast, but not roomy. With all his kids, step-kids, and grandkids, he needed more room, so he moved up to 30' for $2500. That boat didn't need anything except a prettier tiller and new cushion covers. He had years of fun on it and there was sleeping room for 2 adults in the v-berth, and could, with ingenuity, accomodate three kids in the salon. We sold both of these on ebay, and their new owners are thrilled.

I'm just suggesting, Jack, that your first boat with kids doesn't have to be the perfect boat. If you don't spend much, you can have fun with it, then trade it in for something else.

Now that we're heading offshore, we have a huge boat. There must be a reason that it's so big. Maybe because we'll be having guests? I hope. My father and his wife sailed their Hinckley Bermuda 40 all over the Caribbean. Did they ever invite any of us? Nope. Not enough room they said.

I guess I never wanted to say that. Our boat has two salons (one's a pilothouse) and three sleeping cabins, plus two heads. So, kids, come. And bring the grandkids. And their friends.

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post #13 of 14 Old 06-17-2006
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Varuna, Tania Aebi's boat, was a Contessa I'm not quite sure which boat you're talking about. It was made in Canada by JJ Taylor, under license. I also don't know where you're getting the couple of hundred dollars figure from. Tania had spent quite a bit more than that circumnavigating, even if it wasn't all her money. She had a lot of parts and replacement equipment brought in by visiting friends and family as I recall it.

One other point... Contessas are not particularly fast designs. They're fairly traditional boats with a full keel, and rather heavy displacement for their size—5400 lbs. There are many boats in that size (26') that are far faster.


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a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

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Well, for better or for worse, the boats I look at seem to get bigger all the time. We're going to look at a couple of Pearson Vanguards this summer. I love the look of the boat and aesthetics is important to my wife and me. On the plus side, it has bunks for everyone. On the negative, it's old (though well built), and rather small below with only a 22' waterline. We'll have to bury the rail to get the waterline up . I'm nervous to sail a boat of this size with my experience level but it's one way to learn, right?

I'll be sailing my little Catboat in 20kt wind tomorrow and I can't reef. I can't wait. It has rained every possible day I could sail so far.
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