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Hello All,

So, Id like to live aboard a 30ft-ish sailboat but the problem is i've never sailed a day in my life. I Grew up on a houseboat and have boated most of my life but for whatever reason never found myself in a sailboat. Anyway, I'd like to start out small, I'm currently looking at a 1973 Catalina Capri 22. I don't see anyway I could live on it but I do see the value in learning to actually sail and learning to maintain a sailboat.

I think it be a lot more manageable to learn sailing and such on a smaller scale but i'm also missing out on the biggest reason why i'm doing it...to live on the damn thing!

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If its a 1973, I think its a Mark 1 . I have one of those. No way to live on it. I have taken a nap on mine but I was pretty much blotto.


But, no living on it. It would be like living in a van.
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Just to make sure I understand you-

You're looking to live on a 30 foot boat, AND you do actually want to sail it.
You're not looking to buy a boat and squat on it until it sinks?

I lived aboard my Pearson 30 for awhile. Perfectly do-able, and even enjoyable.
I learned to sail on a Coronado 25 before I bought the Pearson.

You can buy your 30 footer and live aboard while learning to sail on smaller boats. Make friends, walk the docks. People will take you out and teach you.
When you're ready, take your 30 foot liveaboard boat out for a sail with an experienced sailor for "big boat" lessons.

30 feet isn't the Nimitz aircraft carrier. You don't need to buy a fleet of smaller craft to work your way up to 30 feet. Just borrow or rent them.

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Just to make sure I understand you-

You're looking to live on a 30 foot boat, AND you do actually want to sail it.
You're not looking to buy a boat and squat on it until it sinks?

I dont see the point in having a boat If you're not going to sail it. Thats just my opinion on that. So yes, It will be sailed frequently weather permitted of course.

I lived aboard my Pearson 30 for awhile. Perfectly do-able, and even enjoyable.
I learned to sail on a Coronado 25 before I bought the Pearson.

You can buy your 30 footer and live aboard while learning to sail on smaller boats. Make friends, walk the docks. People will take you out and teach you.
When you're ready, take your 30 foot liveaboard boat out for a sail with an experienced sailor for "big boat" lessons.

30 feet isn't the Nimitz aircraft carrier. You don't need to buy a fleet of smaller craft to work your way up to 30 feet. Just borrow or rent them.

I assumed that it be a lot easier to move around a marina in something a lot smaller.
Didnt think about living on it then sailing smaller..Makes sense
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You need to find out if you like sailing. It can be cold, wet, slow, boring. Or, a nice methodical way to enjoy peace and quiet. One season owning any boat ought to let you now which camp you'll fall into, golfers or sailors.

Do bear in mind that an old used boat is something like an old used car: If it is breaking down all the time, you may get the wrong impression of cars and driving, so try not to buy a moneypit.

Second thing to decide if whether you'll like living in a camper that is constantly in motion, constantly fighting the elements, and often without heat or air conditioning in a damp exposed location. Coupla overnights and weekends on the boat will give you some feel for that.

On the bright side, you never have to wait for the cable guy (no cable tv) never have to pay for plumbers on overtime rates (they don't make boat calls) and you'll never need to try finding a good housekeeper or lawn guy, they don't do boats either. (G)

Plunge in, with a 22 you can't be hurt too badly, call it a "dream education fund". DO find and take some sailing classes though, because there's an awful lot you just can't get right from books and videos, and those classes will bring you up the learning curve a lot faster, with a lot less pain, while introducing you to other new sailors, who'd be delighted to join you for a three hour cruise. So to speak.(G)
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Sounds like a great plan to me. I bought an Aquarius 21 sailed it for two summers, bought a Tanzer 27 and moved aboard. Lived on that for 3 years and now live aboard my HR 31. I absolutely love it. Starting small and moving up is a good idea.
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I have a 77 Catalina 22 and love it. I've soloed many times. My plan is to move up in size every few years then move aboard in 7-10 years or so. Get on it!

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I bought a 36' last December and moved onto it last July - I'd never set foot on a sailboat before.

Don't regret a thing, and wish I'd done it sooner. I practiced docking a bit before the nasty weather set in and am longing for the spring/summer and being able to get out of the marina and go places!

Also, you find out REAL fast if you are 'handy' (and if you are not, then you learn extremely quickly)

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Didnt think about living on it then sailing smaller..Makes sense
In reality, there isn't that much difference handling a 22 foot and a 30 foot boat. It is more dependent on how the boat itself handles and you'll get used to either one relatively quickly. I know of a top rated sailing school that teaches basic keelboat skills on a 26 footer. Clearly, it is different than a 14 foot sunfish or Hobie 16.

Layouts of these boats can be very different, as well, so I would look at several in that size range and see which feels right to you and is the type of boat for the sailing area you'll be in most of the time.

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sailing isn't hard and never having sailed isn't any reason not to live on a 30' sailboat

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