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I am trying to make a difficult decision between two similar center cockpit boats around the same age and over all condition. Both are 1997 ish. Does anyone have a preference and why?

My wife and I are planning on cruising the Caribbean for a couple years then going to the Med for a couple more years. It will be mostly the two if us with occasional guests.
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Re: Passport 470 or Hylas 46

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I think the Passport is the better built and finished boat. But it's close. Of course I prefer my own designs but I have always like the Hylas boats.
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Thanks. there just seems to be so many similarities between the two. We are traveling to Wisconsin to look at a 470 and are very excited.
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Re: Passport 470 or Hylas 46

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Thanks. there just seems to be so many similarities between the two. We are traveling to Wisconsin to look at a 470 and are very excited.
Any boat in Wisconsin this time of the year should be able to be had at a great price. Not only must the owner consider the expense of having a boat he can't use all winter, but you should consider the cost of getting her out of the Great Lakes and as far as Nova Scotia before you can really begin enjoying the boat, especially if you want her out of the area before the ice sets in.
I'd check with a delivery skipper as to the cost of moving her out of the lakes, and down the St. Lawrence and take that into consideration in your offer.
However, if it was me trying to decide, the livability of a boat is far more of a consideration than her looks or sailing ability for an adventure like the one you are planning. Remember, she's going to be your HOME for a number of years. Ventilation would also be very high on my list, unless you plan to run a generator and air conditioning every time it gets hot and muggy.

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Re: Passport 470 or Hylas 46

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Not sure if the Passport is the aft cockpit model, but if it is that would be the winning boat for me. But that is my preference. I looked for a Robert Perry boat but they were out of my price range. (he does have some affordable designs, but I could not find one in good condition) I like the look of the galley, think I could put some slamming dinners together in that. (you can tell he likes food, most of his galleys are very workable)

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I know for a fact that round settees don;t work worth a damn. The human body seeks corners.
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I am actually from Minnesota and currently sail out if the Apostles in Wisconsin. I have one year until my retirement date so I would more than likely sail it up and around from Manitowoc Wi, which is on Lake Michigan. It would be already to late for this year and I would prefer to wait until next spring, but I am getting way ahead of myself. the fact that this particular boat is in fresh water with little use lately and stored indoors is interesting. The engine only has 1800 hours.

My ultimate plan would be to update what I need to and get her ready to take her out through the lakes myself when I no longer need to report to work.
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If I was going to spend that much money on a boat, I would purchase Bob Perry boat consultation services. A well spent $500 even if you weren't buying one of "his" boats
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Not to suck up too much to Bob, and he is generous with his advice online, but I would spend the bucks for the extra attention.

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I'll help you move it, Mike. I do like the aft cockpits better though. Just my more traditional prefwrence. If I recall the aft cockpit Passport is easy to move about in for more than one person. Lots of reasons to go center, too.
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Re: Passport 470 or Hylas 46

I'm sure they are both great boats. Occasionally, I hear some grumbling about the Queen Long Shipyard in Taiwan, where Hylas is built (no idea if the 47 was built elswhere). I've never heard anything but good things about the Passport build. But, they are both great brands.

Anecdotally, I was on both the Hylas 63 and the Passport 61 at the Annapolis sailboat show a few weeks ago. In that case, there is no comparison. The Passport seemed, by far, to be the superior boat in both design and quality. Could be personal preference.


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