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Old 10-26-2006
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Ahoy Eryka,

This being the busy time of year for me, running boats from up north to Florida, I was lucky to get to use wifi to see this post.

In an ideal world the Dog is right on. However we don't get to pick our window for those perfect days to run the boat. We go like hell to get it to it's destination as quickly and safely as possible. Dose this mean, going out in 30 knot winds, going in rain, running the motor? You bet and nothing will break if your Lucky.
This is what I do for a living, I have 2 seasons to make it or go bust. I have to move as many boats as possible quickly as possible.

DO I make sure the boat is safe before I leave? You bet!!! I have turned down jobs because the boat would not make it as it was presented. I will either make repairs or have repairs done to make it safe before I shove off. Then and only then we run and run hard.
I have my regular customers that contract me every year to take care of their boats and to move them around as they please. I am responsible for their boat and my crew, I guess that makes me a ***** at times, but nobody is gonna die on my watch.
Delivery is not an easy job or a cruise in the sunny Caribbean it is work and it sucks at times but somebody has got to do it.

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I didn't mean to say that all delivery captains are like that... but some are willing to take obscene risks, that aren't realistic. Going in rain or even in 30 knot winds may be perfectly reasonable, depending on the boat. A Swan 46 isn't going to mind conditions like that, but a 30' hunter might. I can understand the time pressure that delivery captains are under, but believe that some tradeoffs in time must be made for weather and other issues.

I don't expect a delivery captain to wait for a perfect weather window...that is both silly and unrealistic...but so is setting out as a serious storm front is moving through the area that you will have to sail through.
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Thanx all (sorry for the delay, I've been having problems getting onto sailnet A LOT)

Bill - you forgot #4 -- someone else's $$

Dave - thanx for the warning, with 2-1/2 weeks I'm hoping we'll be somewhere between "driven by the calendar" and "waiting for perfection." BTW, is there a generally-accepted practice re pay for standby time for example if the boat isn't ready? Our agreement is pay by the day underway (plus first and last on land, etc)
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Yes, sailnet has been rather unreliable as of late.

Don't forget to mark your gear clearly with your name and phone number at a minimum.

Also, if your gear, like the GPS, requires AA batteries, the ones I recommend getting are the Energizer Lithium AA batteries, often called photo lithium batteries, since they're often recommended for camera flashes and digital cameras. They last about four times as long as standard alkaline AA batteries and are a bit lighter. Better yet, they tolerate cold weather far better and have a really long shelf life, provided they're kept in reasonable temperatures and dry—about 10 years without significant loss in strength.

Most of the safety gear on my boat, like the PFD vest strobes, flashlights, laser flare, and backup GPS have them installed. My ditch bag has two dozen of them in it, in sealed pelican cases, to keep them dry.

The last advantage of the Lithium AA batteries is that they tend not to leak and corrode as alkaline AA batteries will if left in a piece of equipment for a long period of time. The Maglite i have in my truck has had a set in it for over five years and still is just fine.
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I also carry my own VHF h/t, simply because radios fail and I know mine is working when last tested. And a strobe goes on my PFD/harness or in my pouch, for nights.
Not knowing the captain...I would ask him for a copy of the float plan, to make sure there IS one, and make sure someone knows when to call in the SAR teams at an agreed overdue date. That person should have full information about the boat, preferably a pre-filled USCG SAR form, which asks things like "Number and color of sails? Hull? Deck?" that folks sometimes just don't think about.

"BTW, is there a generally-accepted practice re pay" I think these days, just about anything goes, depending on who's got the pursestrings and how they feel about opening them. The more irreplaceable you are, the more you can command.
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Thanx all for your advice! Everything was spot-on!

Disappointingly, we never got to sail. Winds were consistently 20-25, on the nose and against the Stream, for 2-1/2 weeks. According to local knowledge this was the winter weather pattern and would remain in place until spring.

The owner paid to have us deliver his boat, not smash it up on the way; we came home via silver bird and will try again in spring.

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Delivery

Deliveries are a good way to get experience, good and bad.

Do not go without a contract.

Know who you are working for and who owns the boat. Get a resume from the captain and the company he works for as well as the company/individual hiring the captain.

Have return passage in hand before leaving.

Inspect the boat very carefully before leaving dock.

Are you being paid or are you paying??

What will be expected of you??

Who will be determining the schedule, route and other particulars?? It should be the captain.

Good luck.
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