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Trozden...I'm chuckling here with the memories you brought back! Sounds like we had exactly the same experience...even with VanSant!

Was the Samana pirating incident you referred to last November with a Vagabond 47?? We are close friends with them and they were boarded there after going aground. A real horror story. REALLY not a good place!! As you point out...at least Luperon was reasonably safe!!

As an aside...to anyone considering a visit to Luperon...if you go on the beautiful waterfall tour, do NOT swim in the water ...there are towns upstream and guess where they dump??
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I was heading north so I was reading VanSant backwards and upside down which was pretty much the same as reading it forwards. Unfortunatly he is technical dead on point regarding the south coast of turks, north coast of DR, the Mona and hour glass shoals. (the worst written book ever and a MUST read.)

I spent my month there Apr 2005. I just heard from an arriving boater of a boarding incident while the owner was sleeping.

I did do the waterfall tour with a couple local girls and another boater. It wasn't my type of thing but a lot enjoy it. I also spent 2 days around a toilet. (don't remember if it was right after the waterfalls. It's all pretty much a fog now.) Don't forget the cipro.

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The best day was loosing the stearing along the south coast of Puerto Rico.

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"I also spent 2 days around a toilet. (don't remember if it was right after the waterfalls." Even in the US, you can get critters, giardia and cryptosporidium, simply from getting a little fresh "spring" water on your lips. The park rangers like to say "Sure, you can drink the water. Just get to a hospital within a week and tell them you need..."
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Personally I never left my boat in water during hurricane season. If you want ultimate safety and less cost it is best to haul out as opposed to leaving boat in marina. I quess it all depends how long you are leaving boat. For us it made sense to leave the boat for few months during hurricane season and do other things. Check out marinas in Puerto Rico and those in US Virgins particularly St Croix. These are a little less considered by cruisers but offer some advantages,e.g. US territory, great cruising grounds,readily available parts/supplies...Good Luck...Dave (Reflections)
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Scott...the problem in those places is that there ARE hurricanes. In the DR (Luperon) and Trinidad/Venezuela and (almost) Grenada...there are no hurricanes ever (OK...once in Grenada) so it is safe to leave your boat in the water. Everywhere else from the southern East Coast on south and east you must either haul or be prepared to scram quickly.
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It might be useful to tell the truth about the hurricane that ONCE hit Grenada. First that wasn't a very long time ago (end 2004), second Grenada was literally devastated and about 300 yachts went damaged or sunk,in the water and in the yards. Then salvage activity resembled much to piracy and local mafia...
That doesn't mean that it will happen again, but knowing it is better...
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Mandovai...just saw your post. I was there and got "devastated" along with everyone else. Would not want to do it again. Lieklihood is extremely small but at first prediction I would head the 80 miles to Chaguramas. I would still stay in Grenada for the season rather than Chag...but I'd be ready to leave if there was any chance of a hit. One of the problems with Ivan was that it had never happened before in recorded history and so everyone kept believing the reports saying it would turn north and at most we'd get a tropical storm. This was the forecast the NIGHT before the storm. Woke up the next morning to find a Category 4 60 miles south and 60 miles east of us moving Northwest. Game over!
As to the aftermath...it was almost worse than the storm...but I don't think that situation was unique to Grenada and believe similar would happen in any of the islands. Indeed we had much the same happen in New Orleans after Katrina..the difference was only that we had the Nat'l Guard to restore order.
As far as I am concerned the DR and Venezuela are just like Grenada was before Ivan...hasn't happened YET...but they're all a better bet than the places where it happens with some regularity. Besides...you can get great fruit smoothies and pizza in Grenada!!
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does anyone know of Curacao

I have past live memories of Curacao... or rather I look at the photos of the place and drool. I've fallen in love with Curacao and Saba both and was wondering if there is anyone here who has spent time in either of these islands and if they no of any cheap or resonable harbors, storage... places to achor out?

Or are they both so built up that anything resonable isn't available.

Oh and Cam thanks for so much information on Grenada. That's a place I also want to explore. Soon very soon... I will just get in my boat and head south, I swear someday soon... I'm just going on a sailabout.

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