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bvinut 12-20-2006 01:09 PM

Location of the wreck of the Chikuzen in the BVI
 
Hi all,

we were in the BVI chartering recently and, on the leg from Anegada to Sandy Cay, I wanted to stop at the Chikuzen wreck for a dive, but could not locate the buoy/s. I used the approximate position given on the British Admiralty Virgin Islands Leisure Folio, about 6 nm N of Great Camanoe, hove-to to look around but no luck. I guess I'll have to try again next year.
Anybody willing to share the (exact) position of the Chikuzen? :)
How many mooring buoys are there and how reliable?

Snowed in in Colorado

camaraderie 12-20-2006 03:48 PM

GPS Lat.18 37.129' N GPS Long.64 30.969' W PrecisionExact
Great site for dive locations!
http://www.wannadive.net/spot/Centra...eck/index.html

TrueBlue 12-20-2006 04:10 PM

Great dive locator Cam - thanks for sharing. I just entered some of my favorite sites in the Atlas.

bvinut 12-20-2006 06:47 PM

Thanks a lot, camaraderie!
The BA Leisure Folio is off by almost 2 nm !!!
Now, just about one year of day-dreaming and I'm off to the Chikuzen ...

sailingdog 12-21-2006 06:49 PM

Cool link Cam... keep up the good work... ;)

hellosailor 12-21-2006 07:53 PM

2 nm?

GPS datum shift?

sailingdog 12-22-2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hellosailor
2 nm?

GPS datum shift?

Probably more like chart datum shift... ;) Most GPS systems are WGS84 for the chart datum IIRC. Many of the charts in more remote regions are not.

bvinut 01-24-2013 03:48 PM

Re: Location of the wreck of the Chikuzen in the BVI
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hellosailor (Post 98784)
2 nm?

GPS datum shift?

Yes, about 2 nm, and no datum "shift". :)

The British Admiralty Leisure Folio SC 5640 The Virgin Islands (1st ed 2003),
sub-folio 5640-2, has a wreck marked "PA" (position approximate) at coordinates N 18 deg 35.85' W 64 deg 32.00' (WGS84 datum).

The correct Chikuzen position, N 18 deg 37.130' W 64 deg 30.969' (WGS84 datum), falls outside sub-folio 5640-2, however it can be located on the adjoining sub-folio 5640-3, which has no "PA" wrecks marked in the East semicircle of radius 4 nm centered at N 18 deg 37.130' W 64 deg 30.969'.

Since 1' lat = 1 nm, you can check that the difference between the PA position and the correct one is ballpark 2 nm.

Anyway, I was in the area around Nov 22, 2012 bareboat chartering and the sea state was good for a dive. Unfortunately, I could not locate any buoys. Nor could a large catamaran with at least 12 divers aboard. We both criss-crossed the area together for about 20-30 min to no avail and left.

Does anyone know if the buoys were removed on purpose or broke off?

sd1953 01-24-2013 04:37 PM

Re: Location of the wreck of the Chikuzen in the BVI
 
BVInut, your original post was 2006. This new post in 2013. Did you go back to BVI and miss the wreck a second time? That would be disappointing for sure.
You went to the correct coordinates the second I assume and still no joy? Did you have a fishfinder to look at the bottom? The bottom would change 30' as you passed over the wreck. Been some storms since 2006 in the VI area. Is it still divable?
Sorry to hear you didn't get to dive it a second time. Long way to go for no joy. (But hopefully at least a nice sail!)

Zanshin 01-24-2013 05:44 PM

Re: Location of the wreck of the Chikuzen in the BVI
 
There is one mooring ball out there, but it is a commercial ball meaning that if a dive boat shows up you need to relinquish it and let them have it. But if you get to dive it:

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