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I phrased that too casually, assuming the context is that of a US citizen bringing in a boat that will be US documented and/or state registered. It isn't just a matter of bringing in a bottom with TBT on it--but being a US *owner* now in possession of TBT for an unlicensed application.
There were some limited circumstances where TBT was still allowed for aluminum hulls/props but my understanding is that even those were being phased out--maybe not for vessels with foreign flags, but for the context we have here, a US citizen owner bringing them in on a vessel that has no exemptions to carry it.

No, I can't site you the current TBT regulations, I just wrote it off once it reached the point of "damn fine stuff but they're gonna own the shirt off my back".
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So just to get back to the matter at hand. My question was about how difficult it is to bring in gear with the "Yacht in Transit" at trinadad? I've heard horror stories for other countries, since I've never had to move on a boat in a remote location. I wanted to know the difficulty.

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http://www.ttgospel.com/ttembassy/indexnormal.php

That's the URL for their DC embassy, a good place to start would be getting their official instructions and policies.

If you plan to buy the boat in T. and change it to US-flagged, you might want to make that clear to them since they might not consider it to be "in transit" if it was *starting* from T.
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HS has a very good point... can it really be considered a yatch in transit...if it is sitting there before you buy it???

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RE: TBT Ban
Actually there is NO restriction on any boat entering US waters with a TBT painted bottom. The restriction is on work done HERE in the USA where
"use is prohibited on non-aluminum hulls and vessels
less than 82 feet in length"

TBT is still allowed for use on props and shafts and for larger vessels including the US Navy and ANY aluminum hulled vessel. If you are a US skipper of a US boat and get your boat painted down island with TBT, there is no problem bringing it back to US waters.

OK...so that is the legal status. TBT seems to be pretty bad stuff for the marine environment and recreational boats have other alternatives that are effective....now if they could just be as concerned about the big ships. Kinda feels a bit like the marine head discharge rules." Let's get the little guys so we can make headlines" while letting the big guys keep dumping.
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"use is prohibited"
Well, I know the Fed doesn't like to hire YnGlitch majors, but isn't simply having the paint on your hull "use" of the paint? As opposed to "application" of it?
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HelloS...I've searched extensively and there is no ban on vessels entering currently. There is a 2001 IMO treaty which would do that which has NOT been ratified by the senate and is still well short of enough signatories to make it happen. The present regulation at the federal level is this:

In 1988, Congress enacted a partial ban on TBT antifouling paints, eliminating the need
for EPA action.5 The OAPCA banned the application of antifouling paint containing organotin
to vessels less than 25 meters in length.6 Organotin is defined as “any compound of tin used
as a biocide in an antifouling paint.”7 The prohibition does not prevent the application of
organotin antifouling paints to the aluminum hull, outboard motor, or lower drive unit of a
vessel less than 25 meters in length.8
The Act also prohibits the sale or delivery of an antifouling paint containing organotin or
the application of paint to a vessel, unless the paint is certified by the Administrator of the
EPA as a “qualified antifouling paint containing organotin.” A qualified paint is a paint
containing organotin that is allowed to be used under the terms of a final decision of the
Administrator or certified as having a release rate of not more than 4.0 micrograms per
square centimeter per day.9
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