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[QUOTE=ianhlnd;117479]You gotta be jokin right? No person in their right mind would take two dogs on an extended cruise. Two days at sea you'd be slippin and slidin in dog crap, not to mention sea sickness, the additional water requirements, the different entry requirements for other countries, etc., etc., etc.

Ihave two king charles cavaliers onboard. I am not sliping and sliding on dog crap either! Both are trained for wee pads when we cant go ashore. NO places weve gone out of the US has denyed us entry with the dogs, infact few places have quarentten. Both dogs never get seasick. They eat a preportioned food and we keep 6months worth at a time stored in sealed bins, waste disposal is easy on deck we wash off (that is not often, the pads are thrown in burnable trash) water they have in am and pm..
To read your note shows you not only are a selfish person who has no interest in sharing your life with a dog who would give you company and whose friendship has many rewards. YOu also appear to be so lazy and thoughtless to say such a horrible thing of keeping a live animal only to have dinner in 2 weeks at sea
what a jerk! Your note didnt sound like joking..

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Ian may be an old curmudgeon, but he is far from selfish, lazy or thoughtless. You might do well to read a bit more before unleashing both barrels on one of the more liked members of sailnet.

His point about various countries having strict regulations is a valid one, even if not your experience with them.
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Kathleen,

I have always had dogs, have two now. But I have never heard of a King Charles Cavalier. What size dog is it? And what were they bread for? Do you have a pic?

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And what were they bread for?
Sandwiches is my only guess. Buh dum dum...Thank you, folks. I'll be here all week. Tip your waitress, try the veal, etc. etc.
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First to answer someones question on this list. King charles cavaliers are spanials (toy spanials) mine look like the spanials on sex and the city if youve seen that show? They are not toys they are about 25lbs and 15in tall, my older girl uraine is 5 and my younger girl eve is 3.
Now having two dogs on a boat. We recently were harbored in nassau, bahamas, the marina we were at has had numberous breakins on the boats there. Dispite security and fencing there are gangs in nassau and we knew of two boats that were robbed while we were there. We werent? WHY?
we have two dogs, the slightest noise out of the ordinary both my girls go on alert and wake me, they only bark at things that are dangerous or should someone attempt to come aboard, i swear uraine sleeps with one eye open shes so sensitive about noise. They never bark at anyone unless its someone they distrust. Ive bred whippets for 35yrs and had top winning best in show dogs, and i can tell you of all the other breeds who lived with the whippets (terriers , toys and other hounds) only my cavaliers have really alerted me to trouble danger and even fire!
Now on the subject of traveling (crusing ) to other countrys. Quarentine was abolished after 100years in Britian and its many protectorates. It was replaced with what is called a pet passport. If your traveling to any countrys that are under british flags you go to an international vet, order the passport, in the time you wait you have the dogs blood titer tested (that is sent to kansas state university overnighted) to see if the level is high enought to pass their requirements. If your dog has recived its rabies annually (either 1 or 3 yr) in its life it will pass and youll be granted the passport. YOU also have to microchip your dog that is part of the passport. the passport insures you to take your dog to those countrys like UK, and any british country who use to have quarentine its just like our passports and states health informtion, the chip number ect. If you do this its also wise to spend a few bucks and buy a chip reader we have one on board it was not expensive
now part 2 of dogs abroad.. some countrys do not allow you to bring pets ashore, figi is one place i know. they just dont allow dogs. or cats.
part 3 if your traveling from the US you are going to need these things
your dogs shots up todate (each country has a website that tells you what they require in time limits on shots-like you cant do it 10days before you leave type thing at the last min, they have a window of time)
there are two types of health certificates, a state health form (from the state its issued in) and a interntional form, if your going to the bahamas, virgins and most places both are accepted
There is a date on the form of when you expect to be leaving, since cruisers dont have adjendas or time tables, you have the vet put in the date your to set sail, then on the top of the form in block letters your print your destination countries and dates possible to arrive
our paperwork has been honored with no issue in bahamas. I never had problems in virgins and that was without pet passports only doccuments.
The last thing is before you cruise with your pets, you have to do your homework, you look it up on line, or call the consulate or talk to someone like consulate general.
When i shipped dogs world wide (over 30yrs) I always called as a courtesty to the consulate and asked for the canine section, they had someone who could answer my questions and give me information on how i could travel with a dog, how to export to another country should the dog be going and not me, how to move to another country by air or sea with a dog also. They are super nice people and many are dog and cat lovers too!
I still have friends at the italian and german consulates i made getting information to ship dogs to those places long long ago, well before it was ready available on internet!
But you do have to do the drill, shots, worming, up to date , heartworm and flea meds, you do have to stock up on medications, food and water . i do keep meds for the dogs like compazine for nausea, or antibiotics for infection, and always albon and flagyl to combat issues of diareaa (as well as immonium ad) I keep a kit just for the dogs, much like my medical kit, it has the same stuff my med kit has like sutures, dental equiptment, and medications, bandages,splints all sorts of stuff
both dogs are on heartworm monthly and flea meds monthly( i keep those in storage baggies and you can buy them in bulk on line as i do, its cheaper than 1-800 pet meds btw.. shop around
For potty i do use wee wee pads, i buy two sizes about 400 in a box of each that is 6months supply, i recommend dh medical for those thru amazon
i get the small size and a large size as well.. little training is needed for those pads btw they are treated with something and my dogs have gone on them since babys, ive babysat cavaliers who never used them, and saw them and instantly took to them.. i keep one plastic bag for their trash
if im diligent these pads to break awy from the plastic so you can seperate garbage too! they are very handy when changing oil btw so aborbant
so they are kind of muti funciton type thing..the wee wee pads come in paks of 10-20 in hermeically sealed baggies..
I dont use the rug or the deck.. rugs mold and smell and the deck its not always easy to wash off unless you haul water up and scrub, id prefer easy clean up
lastly what you put in is what you get out! Feed good dog food, never scraps and never sweets.. I feed a mix of iams chicken and eucanuba tiny bits.. my girls love it have a specific amt they eat a day and never feel hungry, their poops are firm as its good food.. feed cheap get a poor soupy stool.. I dont belive in feeding human food, raw diets or organ meats to dogs, all three have issues i personally wont deal with or wish to avoid
yes dogs do get colestorol problems (from organ meats) they do get gas eating to fast or too much sugar in the food, they get heart disease, and all the same diseases we get. With good care my cavaliers (since they have been tested clear of heart issues) will live till their in their teens and maybe to 20 with good care.(that is close to what most people live to in their late 70s or 80s)
Again dog sailors has a good point if you want to cruise then you plan to adjust to taking your dogs.. I can tell you many a cold night on the ICW i was glad they were aboard, they snuggled up and kept me warm when we were ancored and had no heat and it was 40F out...
they have protected me and alerted me to danger, eve is sensitive to engine noises its save us a few times belive me
and they are good company and help you make many new friends

oh i forgot someone asked if countrys restrict by breeds or ban breeds of dogs/ NO they dont. they just want health records and a place to check that the dogs are who they say they are?
only the airlines ban certian breeds from travel and that is because its dangerous to those close faced breeds to travel on air lines in cargo holds
bull terriers are not included
bull dogs are as they are brachical nosed dogs, also bull dogs have other issues with travel.
i hope everyone got their answers, if you need to know a specific country go to the countrys home page and look it up, each one has a section on dogs, agriculture or import export and its under one of those titles
i agree with dogsailors it would take yrs to write down all the stuff for dogs.. but there is a book you can read ILATA (its the airline rules) most countrys guidelines are in it, ask anyone who works in cargo they will give you an older copy or tell you how to get it, Ive had 5 copys of that book and sent dogs to 27countrys world wide including china and japan (two of the most difficult to send to
for photos our cavaliers go to http://www.solielcavaliers.com
youll see uraine, eve and stitch (stich is no longer with us)

Kathleen
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They're yippy spaniel type dogs that look like this:



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Schipperkes have a 300yr. history of being bred as boat dogs. Our schipperke, Zorro, as been aboard fulltime cruising for seven years. He barks at otther boats in the fog that we can only see on radar.
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