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Do you *really* need a bigger boat? I say this not only because that's a pretty roomy 40, but also because I looked long and hard at 45-50 footers before deciding that 42 feet/13 metres was about as big a boat as my wife could single-hand on watch without "complications" such as electrical winches, etc. She's five foot tall and weighs a pretty muscular 115 pounds, but she can reef our main fairly easily. Furling and downhauls and general caution take care of the rest.
I'm fortunate that my wife is 5'8" and a triathlete. She can ALMOST beat me in arm wrestles . We're going with the complications - electric winches (I know - you shouldn't get more boat than you can handle without "extras" but we'll have redundancy and I'm willing to take the risk). Also, the more we go through the options, the more we think we might be heading towards a ketch, hopefully reducing the overall load on the heaviest sail. We've heavily considered going with a smaller boat, but I love my privacy and space. We're pretty sold, at this point, on a 48'-54' boat while thinking about the trade-offs for handling vs. comfort vs. storage (we need to store 2-3 triathlon bikes since my wife plans to compete in many triathlons while on our trip). Here is info on the boat we're looking for. We're counting our son as a half crewmember since he'll be 12. He'd count himself as a whole

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You asked what I would recommend in terms of formal training that hasn't been mentioned: I would take celestial navigation and coastal pilotage courses, plus if you are going to have radar, a radar interpretation course.
Good idea with the celestial navigation. We actually have a sextant and are looking forward to learning how to use it. We have radar on our Passport 40. I was looking at buying one of those radar simulation and training packages for my computer.

By the way - I don't mean to be coming across as defensive . I love your suggestions and ideas - keep them coming! They are truly appreciated. I look at them as "clarifying questions" where I can let people know where our mindset is at.

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I read through your posts some time back. I gained some good knowledge from them! Good luck in your next try! I'm sure you will be successful this time.
Glad they were of help, that was the main reason for posting them. Even though we usually have to make the mistakes ourselves before they really sink in. And remember, the sucess of a cruise isn't in reaching a certain destination, but in going out and arriving where ever you go, safely.

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Mack Boring and some other places offer a short, three or four day hands on course in diesel mechanics that would probably be a good idea to take. The USCGAux and US Power Squadrons also offer some good courses on various aspects of boat handling, navigation, and often other boating related subjects.

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Think about getting a ham license. If you're planning to have an SSB, the material you have to master will come in very handy.

The Morse-code requirement is gone, so you'd just have to learn some electrical and radio theory and a bit of administrative stuff.

FWIW, I'd think long and hard before getting a much bigger boat than the Passport 40 -- _especially_ just before the cruise starts. We've been down the Pacific coast in a 36' boat, and another 4' would have been enough to hold two kids in a _shared_ cabin.

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Wilderness Medical Associates have great 1st Aid Courses from Wilderness EMT to Basic First Aid. They are taught with the assumption that you are more than 3 hours from Advanced Life Support. I have been in the outdoor profession for a number of years and the industry standard for guides is Wilderness First Responder - a week long course that gives you certifications for CPR and Anaphylaxis shock.

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Labatt...MackBoring does diesel seminars that are excellent!
http://www.mackboring.com/train_mar.php
This looks like an excellent Idea for those who are not sure of their own abilities or have never delved into an engine before... Recommend that the wives/single women take this class also. There will be times when you may want a girls week out on the boat every once in awhile...
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This looks like an excellent Idea for those who are not sure of their own abilities or have never delved into an engine before... Recommend that the wives/single women take this class also. There will be times when you may want a girls week out on the boat every once in awhile...
I'm sure they appreciate that sentiment, but on a more serious note, my wife is considerably smaller than I am (she's just over five feet and I'm just over six), and given that most diesel repairs need more finesse than brute strength, it is simply easier to have her work down there than it is me for some jobs. Oil changes come to mind, as do her more nimble fingers retrieving bilge-bound nuts and bolts.

My long arms, however, make me the logical choice to handle the exhaust elements, the electrical stuff and most thruhulls. Her light weight, by contrast, make her a more logical choice for mast work, whereas my own weight and strength can get her up there with a single wrap on the winch and a foot on the tail.

The big debate at the moment is getting a helm seat that doesn't cost the moon but has both a fairly long piston lift and a wee footrest for when Mrs. Captain is helming.

So I fully support not only the concept of both skippers training, but the application as well. Besides, I'm the better cook...
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