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post #31 of 60 Old 03-23-2007
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So Zan, tell us, have you talked with Morgan yet?
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Jotun - yes, I have spoken with him. His boat has that comfortable liveaboard look to it, with just the right level of care that shows it is a working (and not a trophy) boat.

No news from Jeanneau on the rudder. I guess I'll just have to stay here at the marina a while longer.

While on the subject of personages, last week Walter Cronkite stayed at the marina on Tortola in his large ketch - I don't know what the model was, but it was certainly pretty!


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I heard that a sloop owned by Cronkite had been damaged in Ernesto last fall.
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From the Shannon web pix, it looks like either they have one hell of a varnish crew or MF had mirrored overheads installed in his cabin. Please, don't tell me that's a varnish job!
I'd also agree you did the right thin. You contained the damage, relieved the anxious crew, and got everyone and the boat back to port safely. Can't ask for more than that, unless you also get the tow boat to bring out a good dinner and live entertainment for the trip back.

I'm placing odds on the post mortem showing concealed damage, i.e. that at some point in the charter life, someone whacked that rudder on something and left a flaw developing unseen, which simply bit you. (Not saying the charter company knew about it--but someone might well have hit it, or grounded on it, and told them nothing.) Still...if their maintenance logs show a report of rudder damage or grounding, that would be something else again.

Now your ladies have an adventure at sea to tell of. Remember to thank your boat for being such a considerate partner, and showing you the problem while it was still in a very convenient place to get it fixed!
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Hellosailor,

thanks for the post. The initial survey had fiberglass damage to the bottom of the rudder as well as a recommendation to replace the bearings on the rudder. Both were done and I had hired my surveyor again to check that all fixes were actually performed. I have pictures of the rudder after the repair added to this post.


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Doesn't it seem just a bit too coincidental that your boat had previous rudder damage, issues with the bearings and then lost a rudder...

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Ah, fiberglass damage. I've been a party to one rudder repair, which eventually led to replacement. As we kept looking deeper (Dremel and a router to explore after the weep holes kept weeping) we kept finding more problems, it is incredible how fragile the invisible inards of a rudder can be.

I suppose a solid titanium block would be too expensive?

I really am beginning to appreciate the concept of skeg-hung rudders though.
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The boat yard's getting my rudders in shape as we speak . . .


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Seriously, for cruising sailboats, skeg hung rudders do have their advantages.


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Your boat has gained a bit of weight since I last saw a photo of it...

Solid titanium isn't so good... I'd go with hollow titanium filled with foam, but build the stock into the titanium casting itself. No welds to fail or break.

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