Sail -vs- Motor Cruising? - Page 5 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  

Quick Menu
Boat Reviews  
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Marine Electronics
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here

Go Back   SailNet Community > Out There > Cruising & Liveaboard Forum
 Not a Member? 

LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-23-2007
Valiente's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,491
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Valiente has a spectacular aura about Valiente has a spectacular aura about
Great Neptune, that thing makes my barge look like an America's Cup entry.

It reminds me of the battleships of the 1860s, when they'd gone to steel, steam and turrets, but had more or less a full sailing rig "just in case".
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Old 07-24-2007
Cruisingdad's Avatar
Best Looking MALE Mod
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Washington State
Posts: 9,917
Thanks: 3
Thanked 123 Times in 57 Posts
Rep Power: 10
Cruisingdad is a jewel in the rough Cruisingdad is a jewel in the rough Cruisingdad is a jewel in the rough

Oh, Alex, I have not bought one of these! You are sooo funny. Still, with the exception of the sailing Nord which looks a bit funky, they are awesome boats. Nordhavn just came out with another motorsailor, but I have never been on one or seen it in person - just pictures.

Remember, dear sailors, that Nordhavn, aka Pacific Asian Enterprises, got their start from:

MASON'S! YES, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT BUILT THE MASONS - Which I regard as one of my alltime favorite sailboats. If I am not mistaken, ole Jimmy Buffett bought one of these too!

They are for the right person... and I think they are cool, but probably not for me right now.

- CD

PS Mr Giu, are you not at the boat? I have not heard about the last package I sent you. It was a very large package filled with pictures of a Nordhavn 47, all the trimmings, lots of room for comfortable cruising, kids, toys, a washer/dryer, king sized bed, maybe even a bathtub. Hmm, I sure hope Mrs. Giu doesn't open it first. They do ship Nord's to Portugal. (HEHEHEHEHEHE..... I bet Giu cuts his business trip short, because in the back of his mind, he is wondering if I am serious, or kidding).

A long discussion awaits you back home, my friend.
Sailnet Moderator

1987 Tayana Vancouver 42, Credendo Vides, (Mom and Pops boat, F/T Mobile Live Aboards in Puget Sound)

My Website:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Follow My Blog at:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Follow me on Facebook:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook
Old 07-25-2007
Quit calling me a member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 111
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
morganmike is on a distinguished road
This argument gets twisted so many ways depending on the prejuidiced opinions of whoever is holding forth. It's always funny when people start linking to the Dashews and the Nordhaven home page (which, it seems, is inevitable ... just check the historic threads if you don't believe me.)

In reality, where I presume most of us are forced to live, the discussion doesn't really include 150K+ boats, since 85% of the people I know with boats don't have those kinds of means. Most people own some sort of mid-range production boat in the 25 to 40 foot range, be they either power or sail. Walk down your average dock looking at average boats - and don't tell me these aren't included in the discussion. Talk about what we have, not what we'd like to have in some v-berth wet dream. We live and cruise on what we can. For most average guys bebopping around the sound in the summers for weeks or a month, it's some kind of mid-size cabin cruiser (Sea Ray/Chris Craft/Egg Harbor etc.) or some kind of mid-size sailboat (Catalina/O'Day/Pearson etc.). Average boats. And yes, I know there are many of these power boats worth around 150K or more on paper, but many of the guys I know with nice, big, expensive boats came by them cheap - as they were available for a song from owners who were sick of $1000 gas-ups. And now the new owners are having the same problems.

If you consider the discussion under that criteria, sailing obviously wins cost wise, hands down. Yes, sailing has a lot of gear, but on the average mid-size boat, that gear is neither heinously expensive, nor hard to maintain. A suite of sails is comparable to the cost of an engine, and the service life is similar. Foot for foot up to about 32 feet, a sailboat is roomier than a power boat. Above 32 feet or so, the balance tips in the other direction as a large interior cabin becomes possible on the power boat. The power boat has speed but the sailboat brings the costs of long distance travel within reach of the average guy. Looking at the guys around me, I see lots of tiny outboard driven powerboats out fishing, lots of cabin cruisers going nowhere fast due to ever rising fuel costs, and planty of sailboats being used as both daysailors and liveaboards. Very few people chose to live aboard a power boat in the "average" size range, unless they've got lots of money. That, to me, says it all. Another bit of empirical evidence that speaks to the inexpensiveness of sail is that I've seem several guys on the river give up their sport-fishermen to fish from sailboats.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message Share with Facebook

Quick Reply

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Traveler question sohi07 Learning to Sail 11 10-21-2006 11:47 AM
Sail Repairs at Sea Brian Hancock Gear and Maintenance Articles 0 09-22-2003 08:00 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:01 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) LLC 2000-2012

The store is owned and operated by a company independent of the forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.