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Wow. I've always been an admirer of the HRs but 7'6" draft ?? No way in the world would I go down that path. If I had my choice I'd stay below 6' but 6'6" absolute max. Interestingly enough even the smaller HRs have quite deep draft.

ps - love them Taswells CD. We where anchored next to one a while back in Sydney. Yum. Bit big for me and Ms Wombat by ourselves but yep, very nice bit of kit. Lack of anything even vaguely ressembling a sea berth is a bit of a worry however.

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Wow. I've always been an admirer of the HRs but 7'6" draft ?? No way in the world would I go down that path. If I had my choice I'd stay below 6' but 6'6" absolute max. Interestingly enough even the smaller HRs have quite deep draft.

ps - love them Taswells CD. We where anchored next to one a while back in Sydney. Yum. Bit big for me and Ms Wombat by ourselves but yep, very nice bit of kit. Lack of anything even vaguely ressembling a sea berth is a bit of a worry however.
I got to know the Taswells pretty well. My neigbor owned a 49. Nice boat. They are all a bit different though. We have a 44 some slips down as well.

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We actually looked at that Taswell 49 yesterday and will be looking at it again today. It was our second choice boat of what we've seen. We looked at Cam's boat, and it was really nice (and didn't seem to have the issues that our broker told us Tayana's are known for), but I didn't like walking through the stays the way they were organized. We also looked at a Bristol 56 (beautiful, but completely varnished and there is a LOT of brightwork - and we want to sail). We also looked at a Passport 47, but the chart table was small and difficult to use. Right now, we're narrowed down to the Taswell 49 and the HR 53.

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We actually looked at that Taswell 49 yesterday and will be looking at it again today. It was our second choice boat of what we've seen. We looked at Cam's boat, and it was really nice (and didn't seem to have the issues that our broker told us Tayana's are known for), but I didn't like walking through the stays the way they were organized. We also looked at a Bristol 56 (beautiful, but completely varnished and there is a LOT of brightwork - and we want to sail). We also looked at a Passport 47, but the chart table was small and difficult to use. Right now, we're narrowed down to the Taswell 49 and the HR 53.
Go with the T, then. I have been on them. Nice boats. Well built. Every one of them is a little bit different, though. My dock neighbor was very instrumental in their design layout and import to the US... though I have no idea how many he brought over. On the positive side, each one is personalized. On the negative side, some of the owners might have put things in without considering access. However, it is a top notch, go anywhere boat.

The HR is too. I was on one or two at the boat show some years back. It is actually my wife's favorite boat. However, my comment was: Why buy a go everywhere-on-it boat if you can't go everywhere-on-it (draft)??

Think about that as you narrow down your purchase. If you are going to consider tubs with that kind of draft, I woud also reccomend a Hylas 54 and Mason 54. THe Mason is absolutely my favorite boat.

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Have you looked at Valients? Very solid world cruisers and they'll even shorten the keel if you'd like. You can get all kinds of thing done if you're having it built. I saw a shorter keel version being built at the factory awhile back. No brightwork outside - none! They sell sailing not varnishing.

Back to the ICW . . . the ditch itself isn't the big draw for me but it's the path to the fun stuff. The Bahamas . . . I have heard of people running aground there . . . between islands . . . with no land in sight.


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Back to the ICW . . . the ditch itself isn't the big draw for me but it's the path to the fun stuff. I have heard of people running aground there with no land in sight.
You can do that off the west coast of Florida,if you don't pay attention.

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Just curious, what were the issues about Tayanas your broker mentioned?
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With a draft of 7'6" you would not be able to get into ANY marina on Hilton Head Island at mid-tide or below, and you would have access to only three at mid-to-high tide. That's 50% of each day. Take out night sailing, and you're down to 25% of your daylight hours (on average). The ICW through all of Georgia would be off limits, as would much of southern SC.

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Chris..I would go with the Taswell based on my knowledge of the boat and the sentiments above. Thanks for taking a look at mine. Was the boat cleaned up on the outside...I paid for them to do it so wanted to insure it looked good.

If you are still in annapolis you might want to look at this as it arrived too late for the show and is very interesting and i think along the lines you are looking for. http://www.outboundyachts.com/52/index.htm

EDIT: Just remembered a Tas 49 we looked at in Florida. Loved the boat but the reason we walked away was that the engine room was accessible on 3 sides and oil filter and impeller were on the FAR side and could not be accessed without crowling over a hot engine. All Taswells are custom interior so this may not be an issue with the one you are looking at...but thought it worth a mention.
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I'm glad I do not sail on the east coast. 8-14' of draft would not be too ig concern if you are in the Puget sound region, west coast US etc. most marinas have 15-20' minimums at low tide. Some a bit lower ie 12, but a lot depends upon where and how low a low tide one has.

If I was really worried about low depth, I would probably look for a CB style, then you can pull the CB up in low depth areas, and still have the deeper draft when down for pointing etc. But that is me vs some of you elsewhere.

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