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Very well put. I must confess I was being tongue in cheek to a degree. When we met she asked where I saw myself in 5 years. My reply was living on a sailboat in New England for the summer and the south Atlantic for the winter. Until I learn enough and can take off across the ocean.

I've planned this out for years and can retire in 1 year when I turn 50, but I want to do this sustainably. I don't want an air conditioned dock condo with a fat monthly payment, nor do I want to do this in my 1979 Hunter 25 (it was cheap but isn't a great boat).

A compromise is in order. When she first started looking at boats she was looking and new Benateaus and Jenneaus. Then she started looking at Halberg Rasseys and Cape Dorys. Then we looked at a (I think) Ta Shing Nantuckett (I'm sure it was a Nantuckett but fuzzy about the maker). Everything else, in her eyes, pales in comparison. It was an absolutely beautiful boat. Watching her taste evolve as she learns more has been great, but that boat is out of our price range to purchase out right and a monthly payment is a deal breaker financially.

For me 30-35' costal cruiser capable of a well planned occasional bluewater trip, with a recent engine, large water tanks, solar and wind, good size galley, solar heated gravity hot water and foot pumps otherwise, a dingy capable of double duty as a life boat, and a well insulated icebox. I am mixed on a watermaker, they are only good in open clean water and I'll spend most of my time anchored along the coast.

She is very close to this but wants 38-42' with a fridge, AC, pressure hot water. We are actually quite close. I think after a few trailer trips on my Catalina 22, she will be so in love with cruising her needs will minimize. I do see pressure hot water in my future though.

I don't want an auto pilot, radar, chart plotter, forward looking sonar, satellite phone, or RIB. I don't want to camp. But as I started selling things off I become less attached to things and technology. I am more in tune with Vega's lifestyle, for instance.
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Cstockard,
Very well put. I must confess I was being tongue in cheek to a degree. When we met she asked where I saw myself in 5 years. My reply was living on a sailboat in New England for the summer and the south Atlantic for the winter. Until I learn enough and can take off across the ocean.

I've planned this out for years and can retire in 1 year when I turn 50, but I want to do this sustainably. I don't want an air conditioned dock condo with a fat monthly payment, nor do I want to do this in my 1979 Hunter 25 (it was cheap but isn't a great boat).

A compromise is in order. When she first started looking at boats she was looking and new Benateaus and Jenneaus. Then she started looking at Halberg Rasseys and Cape Dorys. Then we looked at a (I think) Ta Shing Nantuckett (I'm sure it was a Nantuckett but fuzzy about the maker). Everything else, in her eyes, pales in comparison. It was an absolutely beautiful boat. Watching her taste evolve as she learns more has been great, but that boat is out of our price range to purchase out right and a monthly payment is a deal breaker financially.

For me 30-35' costal cruiser capable of a well planned occasional bluewater trip, with a recent engine, large water tanks, solar and wind, good size galley, solar heated gravity hot water and foot pumps otherwise, a dingy capable of double duty as a life boat, and a well insulated icebox. I am mixed on a watermaker, they are only good in open clean water and I'll spend most of my time anchored along the coast.

She is very close to this but wants 38-42' with a fridge, AC, pressure hot water. We are actually quite close. I think after a few trailer trips on my Catalina 22, she will be so in love with cruising her needs will minimize. I do see pressure hot water in my future though.

I don't want an auto pilot, radar, chart plotter, forward looking sonar, satellite phone, or RIB. I don't want to camp. But as I started selling things off I become less attached to things and technology. I am more in tune with Vega's lifestyle, for instance.
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I think that the auto pilot and radar would come long before the pressure water system if you actually want to go anywhere away from the marina....

Oh never mind Just bite the bullet, push back your retirement ten years and get the Nantucket.

After all, to quote Zig Ziglar: Do you want a happy wife, or just a wife?

It could be worse. Mine wants to sail around Cape Horn
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I would prefer a wind vane to an autopilot, $3000 in the bank to radar, and the Med to Cape Horn. Anyway this was my dream first, when I told her the first words out of her mouth were "Can I come?" She hasn't spent enough time cruising to understand it very well. Weekending on my Hunter have helped, but a few trips with the trailer sailer will likely put things in perspective. Let me think, what else do we need to do to get her ready??? Oh yes, I'll keep her away from boats we can't afford...
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Chicken...what's the fun of keeping her away from the $x,000,000 boats?

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Chicken!?!?!? Chicken!?!?!?!?!? I'm devastated. I'll hoist the skull and cross bones, come looking for you. Wait... I'd better ask permission first.
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She said OK but wants to know if we could fit a washer, dryer, and dishwasher on a multi-hull.
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That's what those pontoon thingys with all that deck space is for. Bikes, lawn furniture and appliances. Just put a blue poly tarp over them when it rains.
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In that case, I'd highly recommend the Melvin & Morelli designed Gunboat 62 Catamaran... more than enough room for you and the missus and anything else she'd want to bring along. You can see a great little video of one here.
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Didn't I see plans for a big pontoon boat like that somewhere on Sailnet? I think it was home built out of 55 gallon drums, PVC pipe, and old metal shelves, or something like that. Wow, with one of those all I'd need to do is reinforce the tramp, get some ramps, and voila... foredeck parking. Of course I'm in Kentucky so I'll have to put the car on concrete blocks and I can keep an old washer next to it.
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Damn, I keep forgetting what happens when you mix rednecks and sailboats.
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