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I'm not sure what scale would be required. Back in 1970 a friend and I went from Vancouver to Bella Bella and back over a 3 month period with only charts 3001 and 3002 (which cover the whole coast ) and the pilot books. We didn't hit anything and found our way without a problem, but I certainly wouldn't now. It was a budget kind of trip in an 18' sailboat with a British Seagull ob and a Coleman stove for cooking. Fantastic time though.

As you say it probably wouldn't come up unless there was an accident or investigation.

In the Shuswap lake accident was he drinking? It is the first thing I thought of but I didn't see anything in the press about it. It has to be hard to miss a houseboat that had to have some lights on it with 13 aboard.
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Heh.. I was referring to Bobwebster, the OP.. that guy is a stud.
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Kamloops Daily News in Canada, quoting National Post | Canadian News, Financial News and Opinion, as of several days ago:
"Police found 27 empty beer and cooler cans in a ski boat that crashed into a houseboat on Shuswap Lake last month, killing the houseboat's driver....Mr. Reinbrecht replied that he drank one beer after the crash -- while he was trapped inside the ski boat inside the houseboat because, he claimed, he was thirsty. Mr. Reinbrecht has not been charged with a criminal offence."

It is possible, but only speculation, that the skipper of the ski boat was not using the proper charts and that this may have impeded his navigation. Of course, there might have been some other factors, but it appears that those will be for the investigators and courts to determine.
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He didn't need charts - he needed to open his eyes - if sober. Charts don't show other traffic.
Of course, we don't know what his lawyer told him to say!
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bobwebster---thanks for the link. i have been looking for something like this.
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Charts and lookouts

Brian,

Surely you wouldn't mean to suggest that a responsible motorboat skipper and his crew would have neglected to resolve the targets on their AIS screen or lacked any diligence in performing their horizon scan and observing good seamanship.

Isn't the punishment for that sort of criminal negligence being appointed as a deputy sheriff in Lake Co., California?
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If the driver of the speedboat is personally responsible for many of the empty beer cans on his boat I doubt he could focus on an AIS screen.
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Shuswap

But wasn't the skipper of the powerboat was briefed on the special hazards of consuming alcohol on the water before he was allowed to receive his Pleasure Craft Operator Card?

I noticed that Shuswap is big enough to have a chart. Surely the boater in question was responsible enough to have the required paper charts.

Seriously, I do feel terribly sorry for the family and friends of the folks on the houseboat and the awful and needless tragic death. They have my condolences and best wishes and determination to do my share to try to eliminate the causes of needless loss of life on the water.
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