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Old 08-10-2010
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We all know the operators card is mostly a tax grab. After all the test is the same for an owner in Vancouver with a 50' boat as it is for the fisherman in Moosejaw with a cartopper with a 9.9 on the back. And remember all those idiots on the road have licenses too. Licenses and charts can't protect people from idiots.

I feel sorry for then as well, lucky only one dead as there was 13 on board.
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Operator Card and Charts for BC

In my home state, the Boating Safety Basics class is offered as a one-day class by the State Parks department and this class is FREE -- they even give out a few goodies and a two-for-one camping coupon.

The class is indoor-only and has very little material specific to sailing, but at least it does teach people their legal and common-sense responsibilities and some ways of staying out of trouble. And, even though the course book and test are written for about a twelve-year-old's reading level, it's still tough enough that some adults and many youth can't pass it in the first class. And even experienced and scholarly sailors usually miss a few of the 60 questions.

The course is a lot better than nothing. And, the people who take the time to take the course are pretty surely not the ones who cause the big problems.

They may even be obeying the rule to carry paper charts, grin, which goes back to the original discussion. I wonder what sort of legal language is printed on the charts in regard to copying. In the USA, there doesn't seem to be much practical barrier to copying the NOAA charts. Sure, there is a danger of people winding up with out-of-date charts, but these are still far better than nothing (or 150-year-old Admiralty charts!), especially if the GPS dies. Is there much of a bother for copying Canadian charts?

If we have a flotilla of several boats visiting BC next summer, it seems like we'd be spending a fortune to equip ourselves with a full suite of shiny new store-bought charts. It would seem more sensible for each of us to buy a chartbook for the area and supplement that with some copies of large-scale charts.
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I doubt you would get in trouble for copying Canadian charts. I wonder though if any other countries charts of Canadian waters are downloadable, possibly British. I know the US charts are only of US and possessions (such as Puerto Rico) waters.

In Canada the operators card is now madatory but education is not. A quick read online is all a newbie really needs to get the card. But you pay for it - that's the tax grab part.
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Wonderful job! You've done a great service to many of us who are long on desire and short on cash.
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That is awesome! Thanks!
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Thanks for the effort on these, although they were done on a one time basis and they will not provide most recent information.

Alternatively, NOAA provides a download for a simple reprojector program (windows only unfortunately) that can be used to convert any of their raster chart to TIFF format suitable for printing. This way you can download on demand and convert and print as needed.

Please make note that printing your own charts should only be done on a personal level and will not be accepted if your situation requires you to carry paper charts to be legal.

Here is an article about the process:

Reproject NOAA BSB Raster Navigation Charts And Export Them In TIFF Format

Here is the link to the NOAA download:

Coastal Remote Sensing (CRS) Program - Digital NOAA Nautical Chart Reprojector

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Heh.. I was referring to Bobwebster, the OP.. that guy is a stud.
Thanks -- I've got to show this post to my wife!!!
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...they were done on a one time basis and they will not provide most recent information.
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printing your own charts should only be done on a personal level and will not be accepted if your situation requires you to carry paper charts to be legal.
Good points. If you print your own charts, they're not valid for commercial marine requirements.

I've been updating these about once a year, so some are out of date already. The web site also has links for NOAA's site if you want the latest in BSB format.

In case you want to convert your own BSB files to PNG or JPG, I posted the application and source code for BSB Reader here. Last time I checked, it worked better than the one on NOAA's site.
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You can download "print on demand" NOAA Charts here:
Nautical Charts & Pubs
as well as copys of the Coast Pilot.
I find the book charts very useful.
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