Mast cradle - Erie canal - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest Forums > Cruising & Liveaboard Forum
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 08-16-2008
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
DDawe is on a distinguished road
Mast cradle - Erie canal

We will be heading off to go through the canal from Oswego the Hudson in mid Sept and then heading for the ICW and south from there. I am looking for a good design of a mast cradle to make for the canal portion. If anyone has a written design and/or pictures that would be great. We have a Catalina 34 tall rig.

Thanks!
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #2  
Old 08-16-2008
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,291
Thanks: 0
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Labatt's described his trip through the canal system and how he had the mast cradled IIRC. Do a search, preferably using google for his post.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #3  
Old 08-17-2008
ebs001's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 2,018
Thanks: 3
Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts
Rep Power: 8
ebs001 is on a distinguished road
I would suggest that you remove any instruments from the top of your mast as it is very easy for them to get damaged when locking. I would also suggest that you make a temporary connection for your VHF aerial. You need VHF capabilities for the locks and it's a nice to have for communication with other boaters.
Checking your profile I see you are Canadian. That opens the possibility of having your mast shipped by truck from Kingston, On. to Catskill, NY. If that possibility interest you you can contact Collins Bay Marina at Welcome to Collins Bay Marina - Kingston Canada for more information and pricing.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #4  
Old 08-17-2008
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
DDawe is on a distinguished road
Thanks for the tips and info. Yes, we are Canadian - our boat is at LaSalle Park Marina in Burlington. I was expecting that my handheld VHF would be OK for travelling through the locks. Would that be sufficient or would I need the extra that the base unit provides?

Sailingdog - thanks for the direction to Labatt's post. I looked it up and found some good info there.
__________________
Dave Dawe
S/V Tiffany Rose
Catalina 34 #1159
Burlington Ontario
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #5  
Old 08-17-2008
Vasco's Avatar
Warm Weather Sailor
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 954
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Vasco is on a distinguished road
Here's some tips regarding unstepping the mast for the trip. First regarding the mast supports. Make a crutch out of 3/4" plywood and 2 x4's for the stern rail and a simple sawhorse for the bow. You might also want a block at the mast step. Make sure these are high enough to go over your dodger as it usually rains during the canal transit. Bolt the aft support to the stern rail with U bolts. The forward horse needs no bolting as it will stay there with the weight of the mast when it is lashed. The aft crutch might need some 2 x 4 braces. Take your drill and lots of long screws for the bracing. Put the mast on the boat butt forward. You can determine the height of the crutch and horse by using a taut line. Lash the mast from toe rail to toe rail and also have some lashing to prevent fore and aft movement as you sometimes get bad pitching if you go across Lake Oneida in an easterly blow.

Do not remove your roller furling headsail. Just lash the foil, with sail, to the mast when unstepping. Similarly just take the main off the mast track, do not take it off the boom. Do not take the sail cover off. Store on deck or coachroof, eastbound on the port side as I like to go starboard side alongside the locks and lock 17 can only be done on the starboard side as it is a side fill lock with no tying up on the north side. Leaving your sails bent on saves a lot of time when stepping and unstepping and you don't have to stow those sails as storage is usually limited when you're heading south.

Many are now unstepping the mast at Sodus as the Oswego Marina have really jacked up their prices the last couple of years. At the eastern end I would get the mast stepped at Riverview Marina at Catskill, Mike, the owner is very helpful. Some do it at Castleton (do it yourself) but I prefer Riverview now.

One problem with shipping the mast is that it is unreliable (and costly). You never know if your mast will be there when you get to the marina.

If you're headed for the Bahamas we'll see you there. Give us a holler. My boat is "Breathless" Ben393 from Toronto.

A handheld will usually do you for getting the lockmaster but I hitch my main set to one of those emergency antennas and it works a bit better. One other thing, when you've got the mast up at Riverview bolt all your wood together in a big bundle and put your boat name on it and write "do not remove" for the return trip. You can store it at Riverview but sometimes others will use your wood so bolt or screw it all together so that it won't be that easy to get at.
__________________
Rick I
Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Vasco; 08-17-2008 at 10:29 AM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #6  
Old 08-17-2008
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
DDawe is on a distinguished road
Thanks Vasco
It might be good to have a chat if you are available in the next little while. This is our first major journey and it sounds like you have some great experience to offer. If you are willing, please send me your contact info. My address is dave.dawe7 (at) gmail.com (I had to write out my address because the system blicked my actual email address for some reason).
Are you heading down with your boat or is already down south?
Thanks!
__________________
Dave Dawe
S/V Tiffany Rose
Catalina 34 #1159
Burlington Ontario
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #7  
Old 08-17-2008
Vasco's Avatar
Warm Weather Sailor
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 954
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 8
Vasco is on a distinguished road
Heading south is a great adventure but after a few trips it's better to keep a boat down there. I keep the boat down south now. Hey, my email to you bounced. Send me a pm with your email address.
__________________
Rick I
Toronto in summer, Bahamas in winter.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Last edited by Vasco; 08-17-2008 at 12:36 PM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #8  
Old 08-17-2008
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
DDawe is on a distinguished road
Thanks Rick
I'll try to send a pm again - seems like I need to have a few more posts in to be able to do that in the system.
__________________
Dave Dawe
S/V Tiffany Rose
Catalina 34 #1159
Burlington Ontario
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #9  
Old 08-17-2008
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
DDawe is on a distinguished road
Found out I need to have 10 posts under my belt on this forum to include email addresses or use the pm. This one should do it for me!
__________________
Dave Dawe
S/V Tiffany Rose
Catalina 34 #1159
Burlington Ontario
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #10  
Old 08-17-2008
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: wherever
Posts: 5,233
Thanks: 8
Thanked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Rep Power: 10
xort has a spectacular aura about xort has a spectacular aura about xort has a spectacular aura about
Had a chat with a couple in Tobermory. They re-stepped (coming north) at a town on the Canadian side of Lake Erie to save money vs the high cost of marinas around Tonawanda. They regretted it. Said the ride across lake Erie with the mast lashed above was miserable.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Deck stepped Mast-Always Bad ? Mrs Mutiny Boat Review and Purchase Forum 24 10-05-2009 07:55 PM
Southern Cross 31? db27513 Boat Review and Purchase Forum 35 09-24-2007 10:58 PM
what mast? jrwright Boat Review and Purchase Forum 3 03-14-2004 08:19 PM
Is one better than the other? gandydancer Gear & Maintenance 7 07-11-2002 06:08 PM
The Cape Cod Canal Joy Smith Cruising Articles 0 06-28-2002 08:00 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:43 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012