Heading South from RI - two questions - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 17 Old 09-11-2008 Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
kmahren's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 18
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
 
Heading South from RI - two questions

Heading south from RI early October.

Two questions maybe some of you can answer....
what's the best source of three - four day weather forcast to find weather windows... and daily forcasts?

any recommendations on crusing guides for theSound, NY,NJ, Del, Chesapeake...

and yes, mildred, a third question, any recommendations on the "best" guide for the ICW?

my very humble thanks to all !

Ken.
kmahren is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 17 Old 09-11-2008
moderate?
 
camaraderie's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: East Coast
Posts: 13,877
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 16
     
Ken...what options will you have for weather: PC w/ air card, SSB, VHF?
Sounds like you're going inshore so VHF marine forecasts are probably your best bet. You can also listen in on the Cruizheimers Net if you have an shortwave reciever. Daily Net on 6.227.0 USB as of January 2007 (may return to 8.152.0 USB at 0830 ET in the summer)
If you have internet access, in addition to the NWS/NOAA forecasts, Passageweather.com is very useful for wind/wave prediction as is sailflow.com

As to guides...ICW is well served by the mid-atlantic and southern guides to the ICW by Dozier. And if you want to anchor, find the latest shoal areas and bidege openings...Skipper Bob's guide to anchorages.
I'll let others comment on the other areas. Good luck in your prep!

No longer posting. Reach me by PM!
camaraderie is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 17 Old 09-11-2008
Tartan 27' owner
 
CalebD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 4,739
Thanks: 4
Thanked 107 Times in 99 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Damn, Cam is good. He answered almost all your questions in one concise post.
For the LI Sound I would recommend having the Maptech LIS Chartbook (Throgs Neck to Block Island - which I could not find listed in the Sailnet Store). Mine is too old at 5 years but it lists ALL the marinas w/phone #s, VHF channel and services for any place you might need to use as a 'Plan B' stopping point.
That said, I stayed tied up at the Town Dock in Mattituck about 6 years ago for free which was nice. Greenport or Coecles Harbor on Shelter Island could also make a nice first place to overnight (Coecles being somewhat cheaper as there are moorings which are not available in Greenport). Mt. Sinai harbor and Port Jeff. have many fans although I have not overnighted at either. Huntington Harbor I have stayed in on a guest mooring and is very protected with a number of nice places to anchor out in Huntington Bay. Oyster Bay/Cold Spring harbor is similar although I have not stayed there either.
Further west there is Hempstead Harbor which is not so well protected. I have had my boat here before at HHC and SCYC on a guest mooring though (mom still lives out in SC).
Then there is Manhasset Bay and City Island if you want to stage yourself at the mouth of the East River before heading down (got Eldridge? - the current charts are very helpful in planning your timing going down). Bring your GPS so you can see that your boat is doing 10+ kts while passing Roosevelt Island!
Once in NY Harbor you can proceed on to Sandy Hook or stop at Liberty Landing Marina or try to get a cheap mooring at Pier 40 just up the Hudson (part of NYC Parks dept. - not much in the way of services but a short dinghy ride from Manhattan at Houston St.).
Of course there is more and it all depends on the wind and weather as to whether you choose to hug the coast of CT or LI or bounce back and forth and how much you want to spend, but you already knew that.
Good luck and have fun.

"The cure for anything is salt water~ sweat, tears, or the sea." ~Isak Denesen

Everybody has one:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
CalebD is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 17 Old 09-12-2008
Telstar 28
 
sailingdog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,290
Thanks: 0
Thanked 14 Times in 12 Posts
Rep Power: 14
         
I'd add Stormpulse.com to the list of resources, as it is a good site to check with for tracking named storms and such.

Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.
sailingdog is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 17 Old 09-12-2008
Senior Member
 
mrwuffles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 702
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalebD View Post
Mt. Sinai harbor and Port Jeff. have many fans although I have not overnighted at either. Huntington Harbor I have stayed in on a guest mooring and is very protected with a number of nice places to anchor out in Huntington Bay. Oyster Bay/Cold Spring harbor is similar although I have not stayed there either.
if you make good time you can make pt jeff in a long day and then at about 8 kts on my motor boat port jeff is four hours im in the back of northport which is the farthest fromt he mouth of the bay you can get. but wow is it protected....anyway so figure 3 hours port jeff to huntington bay and then from here to manhatten at 8 kts its i think 4 hours again and we got to hells gate.
mrwuffles is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 17 Old 09-13-2008
Tartan 27' owner
 
CalebD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 4,739
Thanks: 4
Thanked 107 Times in 99 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Your time estimates sound about right to me once you get to Port Jeff. Keep Mattituck and Mt. Sinai in mind if you need to duck in.
Pt. Jeff is a pretty good place to pull in to re-fuel and is probably about 3-4 hours from Northport. You can also anchor in Lloyd Harbor on the south side west of the lighthouse that marks the opening for Huntington Harbor. Still pretty well protected and somewhat easier to get back out on the Sound and get going.
If you can do 8 kts in your boat your time estimates sound right.
I use a 5 kt estimate for my 27' Tartan and can make it to the beginning of the East River from Hempstead Harbor in about 2 hours. Your boat sounds bigger and faster. What is your boat? (I will check your profile).

"The cure for anything is salt water~ sweat, tears, or the sea." ~Isak Denesen

Everybody has one:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
CalebD is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 17 Old 09-13-2008
Senior Member
 
mrwuffles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 702
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
im talking about my motor boat that is a trawler not my sailboat its just those are the estimates i have because i have not done any cruising in my sailboat which is a catalina 22 another anchorage is the coast guard station on eatons neck i wouldnt go if theres terrible weather but its good for overnight and is right on the sound
mrwuffles is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 17 Old 09-13-2008
Aeolus II
 
mccary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Posts: 670
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 14
 
A good cruising guide for the Chesapeake Bay is "Cruising The Chesapeake A Gunkholer's Guide" by William H Shellenberger. (it includes Mid-Atlantic to VA, obviously concentrating on MD & VA. There are enough places to go here that you could spend a lifetime!

One important place to skip is Annapolis in Early October there is the Sailboat/Powerboat shows! No anchorage available and no dockage! Any other time, Napptown is a must visit.

Depending on your draft make sure you stop in on Tangier Island (just South of the MD/VA line). Another nice place is St Michael’s. Also, Solomon’s Island is a great resource before you head into the South Bay.

Joe McCary,
Sailing on The Central Chesapeake Bay, West River, MD on my Catalina 27, Aelous II with my wife and friends.
Sailing Blog:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
mccary is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 17 Old 09-13-2008
Tartan 27' owner
 
CalebD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 4,739
Thanks: 4
Thanked 107 Times in 99 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrwuffles View Post
if you make good time you can make pt jeff in a long day and then at about 8 kts on my motor boat
I read your post but somehow still thought you would be in a sailboat. My bad.
Eaton's Neck Sand Hole is a good idea if you have good weather. I heard that you are not supposed to dingy to shore there and the Coasties are right there to enforce.
Good luck.

"The cure for anything is salt water~ sweat, tears, or the sea." ~Isak Denesen

Everybody has one:

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
CalebD is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 17 Old 09-13-2008
Senior Member
 
mrwuffles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 702
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 7
 
its not the coasties jp morgans old estate has a grounds keeper that keeps you from and rides on a quad he has an attitude and they own the whole little spit instead of the coasties he doesnt even let the coasties take a walk on it i asked the commanding officer about it cuz he bothers everyone and he was gonna tlk to them so ya it is true but its bs because they can ride a quad and rouse up the sanctuary when you cant even take a walk....the coasties dont care though
mrwuffles is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Advice Heading South on the ICW camaraderie Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 53 06-24-2010 03:55 PM
Heading South from NY to Bahamas nk235 Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 17 09-07-2008 10:20 AM
Heading South List PBzeer Cruising & Liveaboard Forum 83 02-14-2008 05:11 PM
Family w/ 3 Daughters Heading South LeeBG Cruising and Sailing with Children 0 10-02-2001 02:28 PM
The Race, The Weather, The Route Bill Biewenga Racing Articles 0 12-31-2000 07:00 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome