Cruising Europe question

[XTR]

Granted I'm nowhere near tossing off lines and heading off, but one of the things the wife and I have discussed is crossing to Europe in the spring and coming back across to the Carib in the fall after the Hurricane season.

This seems to indicate that spending 6 months in Europe/Med is really not doable for someone with a US passport. Am I reading it correctly? (granted that you can spend half the time North Africa or maybe Turkey but you'd have to leave the Med w/o hitting anything on the Northern Shore.)

[jimmytc]

Talk to fred@svperception.us
He sails there every summer

[camaraderie]

Croatia is not a member and has many worthwhile places to anchor. Turkey is a wonderful sailing destination with incredible water and history and good prices too. On the other hand...perhaps you need not worry too much about the "letter of the law" : click on The Schengen Treaty

[mikeandaida]

The 90 day pitfall can be circumvented by simply leaving the country (on the boat) from an authorized port of debarkation, have your passport stamped, sail out to the International imit, and return.

As posted earlier, both Croatia and Turkey are excellent cruising areas with much to offer. These countries are not part of the EU visa regim (shengen).

As a note, i have been living and cruising in europe for the past 13 years, and never once had an issue.

Happy sailing.

Mike

[camaraderie]

mike...I beleve that advice is wrong. You can reset the VAT timetable by leaving for a day...but not the Schengen....

"

• A non-Schengen citizen is allowed to spend up to 90 days in one or more Schengen countries.
• Once you have been in one or more Schengen countries for 90 days, you must remain outside ALL the Schengen countries for at least 90 days. So: “Only 3 months in every 6”."

I agree that a problem is unlikely...but the "letter of the law" is a bit different.
The Schengen Treaty

[RenaeLindsay]

I have been traveling as crew on a different boats (I'm writing a book) for the last 90 days in Europe. My current skipper left Europe for Turkey to help me and not to get into any problems with Greek authorities.

I now have another boat in Italy who wants me to crew for him, but my 90 days in a Schengen country are over. I'm willing to take the chance and fly from Turkey to Italy to meet the new skipper. My question is: What are the risks he is taking? Will he be fined if I'm found out?

I've sailed in Spain, Italy, and Greece for 90 days and not once did I have to show my passport to the port authorities. I'm currently in Turkey.

Some advice would be appreciated.

[tdw]

Originally Posted by RenaeLindsay

I have been traveling as crew on a different boats (I'm writing a book) for the last 90 days in Europe. My current skipper left Europe for Turkey to help me and not to get into any problems with Greek authorities.

I now have another boat in Italy who wants me to crew for him, but my 90 days in a Schengen country are over. I'm willing to take the chance and fly from Turkey to Italy to meet the new skipper. My question is: What are the risks he is taking? Will he be fined if I'm found out?

I've sailed in Spain, Italy, and Greece for 90 days and not once did I have to show my passport to the port authorities. I'm currently in Turkey.

Some advice would be appreciated.

You don't need to show your passport when entering a Schengen country from another Schengen country. It is only stamped when first entering Schengen area and when finally leaving. My reading of the situation is that your 90 days has expired and if you try and re enter from Turkey you would be refused entry. Extending an expired Schengen Visa is, I believe, a difficult, time consuming and quite laborious task, without guarantee of success.

[rgscpat]

Isn't there a process for documenting that you left the zone, so as to be able to re-start the clock? Or is the problem that there's no evidence that you left while the visa was valid?

[TQA]

Remember that the UK including Northern Island is not a Schengen country. If [ OK it is a big IF ] the weather coperates the West coast of Scotland offers magnificent cruising.

So plan your arrival in a Schengen state vist the UK resetting the clock and return south.

[centaursailor]

Originally Posted by TQA

Remember that the UK including Northern Island is not a Schengen country. If [ OK it is a big IF ] the weather coperates the West coast of Scotland offers magnificent cruising.

So plan your arrival in a Schengen state vist the UK resetting the clock and return south.

Republic of Ireland remained outside the Schengen travel zone in order to maintain the traditional passport and visa free travel between the RoI and UK .
Enjoy the craic and come visit the fabulous cruising and midge free shores of Ireland if you get a chance.
Safe sailing