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Nice write up on your choice of boat. We sold our Hunter 37 last fall and bought a Gulfstar 50 ketch. The sail on the ketch you saw is called a mule sail.
Was the docking on your 50 (from the 37) as insane as it was for me on our 40 (from a 27)? Good lord them's big boats!


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The 37 had a two blade folder not much reverse and walked to port. I thought the 3 blade fixed on the 50 would be better but getting 35000 moving takes time. It also goes to starboard with the lefthand prop.
I'm lucky that my slip is a straight in end slip any crosswind and the bow takes off going out. Coming in is easy, keep the speed up to stay lined up hit the brakes and she walks over to the dock. Going out if there is a crosswind I use a spring line to hold her in place with forward gear. After all other lines are clear I shift to neutral and get some "spring" to help get her moving. Then a big hand full of throttle then back off will get me clear. If the wind is on the bow or aft no problem on the bow I will just walk her out. I haven't officially soloed yet but took a couple friends out and just had them stand by. So I can do it but I have to hustle lol.
I still miss my 37c but the wife and kids love the G50. I'm slowly coming around, needs more sail that's why I knew what the "mule" sail was. Talked to Bob P.and my sailmaker about it and will probably be my
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Do you miss the quicker more spirited ride of the smaller boat?
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Do you miss the quicker more spirited ride of the smaller boat?
Honestly, no. I really like the speed and smoothness of the H40. Her sails are freakin' HUGE! She's very responsive - and way easier to sail than the tiller'd C27.

Of course, I've only had her out in 15-20 knots max in Galveston Bay. We'll see how she does in 25-30...but I'm confident in her.


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smackd love the winch layout on your h40. The interior looks nice as well. Looks fast. When i move your way we'll have to do a head to head. Yours a totally different look than the new ones. (i read your blog after posting last time.) I believe you made a good choice.
If i had to pick a new production boat i think i would go with a new Jeanneau 41DS. But, if i have my way and i bail on my present boat i'd like a Southerly 42RST.
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Aaahhh....the smell of wood.

My buddy wants a gulfstar; i told him to look at this boat instead .......Wauquiez Centurion 42
1986 Wauquiez Centurion 42 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

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Jonathan Green sailing Jeroboam, his Oceanis 351, not only completed the OSTAR, the Original Single-handed Trans-Atlantic Race, but became the official 2013 IRC Winner Overall of this most prestigious race.
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Now that Southerly is a sweet looking ride. Especially when you start getting over 50'. Yowza! And I agree with you, I'd WAY rather have a Wauquiez than a GS.

Also, I like Jenneau, definitely. I just prefer the less stark interior of the Benes.

These boats can go anywhere as long as you don't sail them stupid.

Now come on down and let's race!

(PS - As for Hunters being able to handle passage-making - Sequitur made a believer out of me.)


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Hey, I do a lot of that too. It's fun! (In fact, I just did it above.)

Do you know how difficult it is to be a "Superior Hunter Owner" in today's sailing forums? I LOVE looking down my nose at (and mooning) Wally owners as I pass them. Fools.
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These boats can go anywhere as long as you don't sail them stupid.
What is there about a Hunter that as long as you don't sail them "stupid," you will be ok vs. a more traditional offshore boat?
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What is there about a Hunter that as long as you don't sail them "stupid," you will be ok vs. a more traditional offshore boat?
I think virtually any modern production boat (Hunter just being one brand) can be sailed around the world without problem as long as it is sailed prudently and well. There's plenty of evidence that this is the case...just on SN alone.

The problem is the old-school thinking (which doesn't seem to be as widespread as it used to be) that it's stupid to even try to do so unless you are in a "traditional offshore boat".


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I think virtually any modern production boat (Hunter just being one brand) can be sailed around the world without problem as long as it is sailed prudently and well. There's plenty of evidence that this is the case...just on SN alone.

The problem is the old-school thinking (which doesn't seem to be as widespread as it used to be) that it's stupid to even try to do so unless you are in a "traditional offshore boat".
I agree with you, sort of. I suspect that if you took your hunter, closed it up, and just let it bob around in the middle of the Atlantic, you could come back a month later and it would be fine.

But what do you mean by "sailed prudently" that would be required on a modern production boat that wouldn't be required on a traditional offshore vessel?

As far as offshore vessels go, there are differences. People like Jimmy Cornell will argue that he would never go offshore without a protected rudder.

THere are also a host of things like floorboards that don't latch, etc.
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How long does a builder and a boat "style" have to be around till it is "traditional" design?
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