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I think you will notice the difference and it will have more to do with hull shape than build quality. Chop that my old 37c cut through would rattle my teeth on the 37.5.
Do you happen to know the difference in displacement on those two? I'm lazy.
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Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Oh and not saying your 40 is a bad boat or bad choice for you. The 37.5 is a blast in lighter air and surfing off the wind. My point is has been there is a difference. Pick your best comprises and sail to its strengths mitigate its weakness.
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Re: Production Boats and the Limits

15000 for the 37.5 17900 for the 37c. The 37 usually came in a little heavier.
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Re: Production Boats and the Limits

The motion comfort ratio really can only be used between boats of the same size and similar design. Comparing an older 45' boat with lot of overhang and a short LWL to a newer boat with a flatter bottom that carries its' length further back is a waste of time (just like comparing the DLR).

And even if the boats are similar in design the type of keel, where the ballast is and where the tanks are located is going to have a large effect.

Most people probably would be better served by cutting down on alcohol and greasy foods the days prior to a passage than to worry the motion comfort ratio.
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I'm not worried about it and I don't think smack is either. Just fun talking boats, lots of things go into each one to make the whole.
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Most people probably would be better served by cutting down on alcohol and greasy foods the days prior to a passage than to worry the motion comfort ratio.
WHAT THE HELL???? NO WAY! If I can't have my scotch and hush-puppies before a rough ride - I'm staying in the slip!
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Re: Production Boats and the Limits

It's been my experience that hull shape has a helluva lot to do with comfort. Where Oh Joy would slice through the waves with no noise or pounding to windward, other newer designs would pound and rattle your teeth in the same chop. The best ride I had on a boat was the little Clipper shaped hull of the Mariner 31 we are restoring. It wouldn't back worth a damn but it was a very sweet ride on or off the wind. It only displaces 11,500 but 5,000 of that is lead.
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Re: Production Boats and the Limits

I posted this some time ago on the interesting boat thread but it seems to me that it also belongs to this thread:

"Any sailboat able to make the Northwest passage will deserve a better look. If that boat is not a purposely built boat well, it is an interesting one, so just have a look at this one, not only crossed the North Atlantic at high latitudes has they went trough the icy Northwest passage. After that they circumnavigated:

The boat was blocked by ice in Peel Sound and they hesitated to go through.
Eventually they found a gap and went through. Some wind pushed them through with considerable speed they reported.








That's true, it is a some year's old Bavaria 44. Basically a standard boat.

It seems that those kevlar protections that the Bavarias have on the front part of the hull come as very handy to break ice

You can read more about that voyage here":

http://www.perithia.de/
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Re: Production Boats and the Limits

Doh! That's not a blue water boat!!! What the hell is it doing in blue water that's turning white and hard?

So a Hunter around the Horn in F11, and a Bavaria running the Northwest Passage?

So where are those limits again Los Traditionalists?
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Re: Production Boats and the Limits

smack - you read my mind !
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