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I cannot believe I just read that!!! That is completely illegal and you know it!!!

It would appear that he meant it to be "tongue in cheek".

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You must be pulling my p..... No true sailor throws rubbish into the sea any more surely. You brought it out then take it back to land with you. Cut out as much disposable junk and other packing as you can.
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Sounds like we got a bunch of environmentalist-type wack jobs here on this board. Suppose you all go #2 in the toilet, even though university studies show that just going in your britches and off-loading all the matter into the ocean at the end of the day is something like 32.8% faster. But nooooo.... we don't want to disturb the fishes!
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Trash management starts before you bring it aboard.
Discard any outer packaging and put it into re-usable containers,preferably buying bulk.
Compostables should be kept separate and buried ashore.A great many islands have poor soil so look at the good you will be doing.No silly answers to that-I am talking about out of the way places-it is so difficult for men to be sensible!
Of course on a long sea voyage then chuck overboard.
Tins and glass need to be washed then can be carried to the port with disposal.
Garbage that does smell(for the people that insist on putting toilet paper in a baggie)should of course be kept separate but as soon as possible can be burnt on shore with other combustible garbage and the resultant ashes then buried.If adequate thought is put into what you bring on board burning need not be done in large quantities.
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Yes agreed, deal with a lot of the potential garbage before bringing it aboard. When we're sailing locally we take everything back to the marina and dump it in the skips provided. Here's what we do on a voyage.

We try not to buy anything in plastic. Only glass and tins. Also we try to avoid Tetra-pac which are worse than plastic.

Disposal at sea (not on the local reef):
  • Glass goes into the sea. It is completely pollution-free.
  • Tins go into the sea. And I've said it before but I'll repeat it here, the Titanic probably represents more metal going into the sea than all the cruising sailors' tins in living memory (and the Titanic isn't causing anyone a problem, niether are my tins). They will corrode/abrade to nothing over time.
  • Paper get's burned or torn into little 1" square pieces and goes into the sea. It does bio-degrade, unlike the thick masses of newspaper in your local landfill.
  • All left-over foodstuffs go into the sea. They also bio-degrade.
The stuff we keep? Everything else. But we wash our garbage like we wash our dishes. In the galley sink with dishwash soap, washed and dried. When it goes into the refuse bag it is as clean as the plate we will eat our next meal from. And guess what? It never smells. Our refuse bag improves the hygene standard of the next island we visit.

Anyone who wants to convert me from what they don't agree with about the above, save your energy. I've been having this debate for thirty years - I've heard all the criticisms before and I disagree with all of it.
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Be careful of some of the newer "paper" goods, as they have plastic laminated to them and should be held for disposal on land.
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Everything is biodegradeable eventually right. I have seen some pretty bad litter bugs. When I was 10 I went sailing with these two brothers off the coast of california.

All plastic stayed on the boat, anything else went over the side. Along with the chant "f#$% it it's biodegradeable".

Fun guys and more than a little crazy, you should have seen their trash trail after a clean up.
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