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It won't work and would probably destroy the flare gun. Here are a few interesting links that relate to this. The best answer to the question I read is please video it so you can watch it when you get out of the hospital.

Flare gun conversion - THR

ATF Online - Fire Launcher Inserts

The first is a shooters forum where someone asked if it were possible.
The second from the ATF describes the legality and discusses a letter from Orion suggesting what would happen to the flare gun - it would be destroyed on firing. The adaptor is for 12 gauge flares only.
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It won't work and would probably destroy the flare gun.
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FWIW, I don't have a plastic flare gun nor did I suggest a "cheap plastic flare gun" (see my prev. post pic) that costs more than a real flare gun.

A Military surplus gun is all steel and it's made to shoot high powered military "white star flares" around the clock in a firefight etc..

Police or ATF will only nab you if you're dumb enough to carry it around the streets loaded.

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The link you posted is for a plastic adaptor for a plastic flare gun to adapt it to fire 12 gauge flares. Hence its 4.19 cost.
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Don't carry a weapon if you don't know how to use it.
Don't carry a weapon if you are not prepared to use it.
Wise words indeed... Many people have been killed with their own weapons.
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Thinking about this subject more I did some web research and came upon these website columns

Guns On Board | MaritimeSecurity.com
A "real world" look at the issue of carrying firearms on your vessel

The Maritime Executive Magazine :: Are Guns the Answer to Attacks on Vessels? ::
Are Guns the Answer to Attacks on Vessels
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I have heard that even the 12ga flare guns and 25mm flare guns are outlawed in many countries. Still, that is my solution.

Also, I believe ti was siggested that a fake gun be used to deter boardings. I am more concerned about what the authorities would think. I do agree that seeing a 'AK-47' hanging from the bimini would ward off most thieves who would rather find an easy target. However, I believe a Bull Mastif might be a better deterrent.

I would also be concerned about having a fake weapon visible in heavy drug trafficking areas like Columbia, Venez, Mexico, etc where there seem to be "turf's". It might actually be a magnet for the wrong type!

I still think that those that might wish to take a weapon into a country that specifically does not allow it, would be bettter off purchasing and training a dog for defense (and that would NOT be an English Bulldog... let me tell ya!). I tis wierd, but I have found a lot of people that looked like thugs had a natural aversion to dogs. At the very least, they would know that boarding your boat would have serious concequences and there would be a fight. That's enough to keep most people away.

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problem CD is that if you headed down here our quarantine laws are such that getting a dog into the country is harder even than getting in a semi automatic

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heres the answer to the problem

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Thinking about this subject more I did some web research and came upon these website columns

Guns On Board | MaritimeSecurity.com
A "real world" look at the issue of carrying firearms on your vessel
Good link, Southwind. The #4 or finer shotgun shells sound about right. Makes me think a test at the Range with some fiberglass might be in order.

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Good link, Southwind. The #4 or finer shotgun shells sound about right. Makes me think a test at the Range with some fiberglass might be in order.
I like his idea of a Remington stainless 870 12 ga.

Iíve never been anywhere other than the Bahamas in a boat. And they allow USCG licensed Captains to bring weapons so long as you declare them and how many rounds youíre bringing. So I always just carry my Glock 9mm.

But other countries Iím sure have different procedures, and requirements, and before I would travel there, Iíd make sure I did some research to find out what they are.
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