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Old 10-13-2009
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plan B is a good thing--always have spares. do not think before leaving on a boat as you will never go out.......like doing the high diving board at age 6 or 7.......do it dont think about it--plan B is always able to be drawn up at the moment of need.........there is a lot to say about leaving and enjoying the sea while you are able and strong.......that is if it is the sea you enjoy--if it is just the boat, then sail in a bay and do not worry about leaving or sailing seas or plan B.....just do as you can...and desire .... there is a call to those of us who love the sea----and a way to get there....fair winds....

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Damn it is so hard. Today I resigned my job so that I can go cruising. A very hard thing to do. But I can't keep my job and go cruising. November 1st I will be unemployed and probably motoring down the Tennessee Tombigbee water way towards Mobile Alabama and the Gulf of Mexico. My wife retires January 1 and we will probably do some local cruising and then head off to the Dry Tortugas. Then the Bahamas and then Chesapeake Bay. Of course everything depends upon everything. But that is our plan.
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That is amazing MoonSailer! All the best, I would love to hear how things go for you. Please keep us updated!

It is very inspiring to hear of your hard thought out choice!
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Good luck MoonSailer! I hope your plan works, it sounds wonderful!
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I did the same thing, resigned from my job effective October 22 so I could move aboard my boat in the Caribbean. My plan is to return to the US to work every few weeks, but not before January. It's winter in the upper peninsula of Michigan, but I noticed it was 80 degrees in the BVI today. Let's see, winter in Michigan or summer in the islands.... Not a difficult choice to make.
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you will be sooooo happy about it all--the nerves go away after the first bridge lol--you will love the tortugas--nothing there --just an old fort and its tour and fishies that donot bite the hook--LOL----absolute peace and quiet--look out for the fish net under the anchor in tortugas--near fort---might have to dive your anchor to make sure it is dug in goood-------wew found the net then had to cut it off--so it might still be there by the time you get there------is soooo gorgeous........
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I took a chunk of my retirement when I was 42 and went cruising for 7 years. Best decision I ever made.

When we are old and infirm we will spend little time regretting the the things that we did do in our youth, and lots of time regretting the the things we did not do.

Incidently at 62 I am off again, retired and just about to buy a boat and go Caribbean cruising for the foreseeable future after two great years exploring National Parks in the US, Canada and Mexico.
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This is a quote from Sterling Hayden’s Wanderer (though he was known mostly as a movie actor he was also a highly experienced sailor/seaman) “To be truly challenging, a voyage, like a life, must rest on a firm foundation of financial unrest. Otherwise you are doomed to a routine traverse, the kind known to yachtsmen, who play with their boats at sea - "cruising," it is called. Voyaging belongs to seamen, and to the wanderers of the world who cannot, or will not, fit in. If you are contemplating a voyage and you have the means, abandon the venture until your fortunes change. Only then will you know what the sea is all about.”
I am not one of those who are lucky enough to have only limited means and marginal boats, but I do envy them for having the good fortune not to have to agonize giving up financial security, career and job which prevent many of us from going on our voyage.
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This is a quote from Sterling Hayden’s Wanderer (though he was known mostly as a movie actor he was also a highly experienced sailor/seaman) “To be truly challenging, a voyage, like a life, must rest on a firm foundation of financial unrest. Otherwise you are doomed to a routine traverse, the kind known to yachtsmen, who play with their boats at sea - "cruising," it is called. Voyaging belongs to seamen, and to the wanderers of the world who cannot, or will not, fit in. If you are contemplating a voyage and you have the means, abandon the venture until your fortunes change. Only then will you know what the sea is all about.”

I am not one of those who are lucky enough to have only limited means and marginal boats, but I do envy them for having the good fortune not to have to agonize giving up financial security, career and job which prevent many of us from going on our voyage.
Some thoughts ....

Think back to when you were a teenager. You probably had very little expectation about what it would cost to live in the world, and your appetite for consumer goods probably only included a few pieces of clothing, a radio, some shoes, a video game, and the like, most of which was probably provided by your parents.

Now remember the day you got your first job, you probably thought wow! All this money, you'll never be able to spend it all! And it is a lot of money compared to the population of the earth, half of whom make less than 1700$us/year (high estimate), a teenager in the United States really does make a lot of money.

But that wasn't enough, was it ? Your appetites grew, you suddenly wanted a car, and that means gasoline, insurance, oil changes, and you wanted more stereo equipment, a car stereo, more clothing, blah blah blah

Before you knew it that job you had wasn't paying so much anymore, suddenly you had expenses, reasons to spend your income, and you weren't free to just leave the job anymore or you'd have to give up the car. Welcome to the world most people live in, a world where they are enslaved by their own appetite for consumer goods. Once you fall into it, you have to work, you don't have a choice anymore, at least not in your own mind. Gone is the freedom you enjoyed as a teenager, those carefree days, gone forever!! (or are they ?)

Worse, as you go on, many people gain appetites that are even greater than their income. It usually starts with some kind of windfall of money, maybe someone dies and leaves you money, or you have an especially high income for a short period of time, for whatever reason you have a lot of money and your appetites grow to match, but then maybe that money isn't there any more, do your appetites shrink back to where they were ? No, you've been in the hot tub now, you've eaten the shrimp, drank the wine, you're hooked, you may even start to see these things as necessities, you are entitled to them, you work, you deserve it! Yet no matter how much you make, you seem to never have enough, even when something good happens and you get a better job it doesn't take you long to spend that too, always seeming to break even, or worse, end up in the hell of debt. Or maybe you are able to reduce your expenses enough that you start putting some money away, count yourself lucky if you do, because you are in the minority.

And the sad irony of all of this is that most adults end up being the people they never understood when they were teenagers. When you were young you looked at the amount of money your parents and grandparents had and made and you couldn't believe how much it was, it was a huge amount, right ? You (as a teenager) could have used that money to do anything you wanted to, go to Maui and surf all the time, get a motorcycle and drive around the country living in a tent and sleeping bag, hiking the great wilderness of Asia or North America, living in hostels while you rode trains around Europe. Yet most adults seem to barely be able to get by, their appetites have grown to such an extent that they can't live without the fancy car, all the toys, expensive memberships, modern services, their ego won't let them live without it - they've worked too hard to go without a cell phone, right ? Everyone else has one, they just wouldn't be "normal" if they tried to live without it, people might look at them funny!

People who leave on marginal boats, etc, don't have an easier time deciding to do it than someone of means, they just have more courage, and they do the hard work that it takes to control their own appetites. Many of the people who you see living on boats aren't nearly as "poor" as you might think, some of them were just smart enough to use the money they made to buy their own freedom.

I disagree with the sentiment of the quote above that having means is a curse - instead, I think it only takes a wider world view to find the excitement referred to, a world view that includes actually being free to do as you please, because if you allow for that then you begin to see the "things" of life as threats to your freedom rather than pleasures and gain. Instead of seeing the extra 10' of boat length as a good thing, it starts to look like a burden, something that is going to take up a lot of time and money. I think a lot of the challenge in life is simply allowing yourself to be happy.
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Another viewpoint.
My house and cars are all paid off, as is my daughters college education. My job seemed to be going really good. I had sold my Hunter 27 in 1983 so we could buy the house. I missed my boat everyday for 25 years. I've got subscriptions to 5 sailing magazines.

I had bought a basket case Catalina 22 and worked on it for 5 years, then had to sell it before putting it in the water when I lost my previous job. It seemed like a good time to look at getting another boat. We took a great vacation to the Florida Keys and I started watching boat ads. A CD comes due and out of the blue my wife gives me the money and tells me to buy a boat.

That was in March of 2008. I bought the boat. She virtually hasn't spoken to me since! She sleeps on the couch downstairs. Was that a test? Did I fail?

After 2 raises the boss offered me a new position managing our shop. I bought the boat. Months went by as he found excuse after excuse not to pull the trigger on the deal. At the end of the year I got a pay cut. I rationalized that we had a bad year. He cut my pay again at the end of this year. Most of my work has been given away to outside contractors. The boss talks about how slow things are while the guy in the next office that does the same jobs I do is working tons of overtime. I figure maybe two weeks to a month before they let me go.

The boat turned into a project boat, with pay cuts, that I can no longer afford. My wife gets even more angry every time I work on it. If I don't put it all back together I will get totally hammered if I try to sell it.

How can things turn around that quickly? I am seriously thinking about going cruising, alone.


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