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I'd point out that Maude Fontenoy broke her mast 200 nm from finishing her circumnavigation...... She didn't call for help...she jury-rigged the boat and told her shore team that she might be running a bit late...

I'm guessing that smacky would be pulling the trigger on the EPIRB in that situation...
Dude, the guy asked about cruising...not circumnavigating with Maude. Good lord man! That's my point.

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I think the point is that while you are cruising, that $500 repair that would cost $75 if you did it yourself may be the difference in what you're eating or doing for entertainment or how much fuel you are going to be able to buy for the next couple of weeks while cruising, until the next pension check or SSI check arrives in your bank account. For many that is a fact of life.

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Smacky—

The fact that she was on a circumnavigation has little to do with this situation...but the fact that she was only 200 nm from her destination means a lot... how far is it from Marion, MA to Bermuda???

Also, note, I didn't say all those skills were PREREQUISITES, but that they would necessary to cruise long-term effectively.

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That is an amazing story. Truly amazing.

I suppose anybody that has moderately competent mechanical skills, has done a brake job, and can follow moderately complicated directions probably can acquire the skills to do fiberglass work, rebed stanchions and be reasonably self-sufficient when cruising.

There are always things that you can learn by doing them yourself, and when in doubt or in a hurry, could in theory pay somebody to do it, and maybe learn something in the process.
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I think the point is that while you are cruising, that $500 repair that would cost $75 if you did it yourself may be the difference in what you're eating or doing for entertainment or how much fuel you are going to be able to buy for the next couple of weeks while cruising, until the next pension check or SSI check arrives in your bank account. For many that is a fact of life.
That's absolutely true Free. And, as you say, that's the choice that all of us make based on our own circumstances. The only issue I had with the statement above is that it shouldn't be presented as a pre-requisite to "effective or 'long-term' cruising". Circumstances are different for each person. You GOTTA know how to sail/navigate/anchor/etc. But you can hop around the islands and coasts for a very long time without having to kedge your hull using a New Guinean axe-wielding dude and a pint of underwater epoxy. Just sayin;.

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Also, note, I didn't say all those skills were PREREQUISITES, but that they would necessary to cruise long-term effectively.
"Necessary" sounds like a prereq to me. That's why I said something. Maybe you meant "a good idea"? That makes a lot more sense to me.

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...installing a new gas spring in my profurl boom vang because they told me the vang was not repairable...


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Seriously, thanks for the replies. Right now I'm mostly deciding what track to take while doing all the early learning/courses. Not sure I can ditch everything, buy a boat and live aboard for a while and learn to sail, so that means extra $$$ to get a place, live, and buy a smaller 'practice' boat to learn on.
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You guys are all amazing and the knowledge, experiance and disparate opinions keep me comming back to this old website when I'm board on dry land. For me,therapy starts tommorow evening when I continue to develope my crusing skills in the regattas of spring. Formal education, ASA 101, 103,104,106, 107 will speed the progress, but do not compensate for time under sail and motor in less than favorable conditions. I am an ASA instructor and we never intentionally take students out in less than perfect conditions, which they will encounter while crussing for any length of time. The long distance regattas do help prepare for that heavy weather time.

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Sailing is an ongoing learning experience, even with all the course knowledge the real confidence comes from going out and coming back, experimenting with your boat, seeing what works with your rig, floating and stowing your sea anchor etc. The courses, practical knowledge all come with time. You originally asked about going out on an overnight, that is a good place to start once you get through the navigation and basic seamanship stuff. The ability to be the calm in crisis, whatever the situ is a function of doing, so get out and do...the plumbing, glass repair, celestial navigation, motor mechanics, all come with time. The most important skill is your own objective assessment of your capabilities sailors, pilots, car drivers, barflys all get into trouble when they are overconfident....learning the craft never ends, that is what is so fun about it...

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NO, I meant what I said. Learning those skills are necessary to cruise long-term effectively.

If you're just doing coastal hops and are always going to be within shouting range of civilization and SeaTow/TowBoatUS, then no, you don't need to learn them—but you'll pay through the nose for any work you need done. Maybe that's okay with you and the way you want to cruise. However, in talking to many long-distance, full-time cruisers, that doesn't work for them.
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"Necessary" sounds like a prereq to me. That's why I said something. Maybe you meant "a good idea"? That makes a lot more sense to me.

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