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working while cruising with dual citizenship

I don't know if this has been touched already but I have a question for all the cruisers out there.
What are the islands that are in the EU ? Caribbeans, Pacific, etc....
I am trying to find info online but it's getting quite confusing. I am a dual citizen ( EU and US) and I am trying to find out where can I legally work to support my family while cruising.
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I think you can go the the Embassy and ask them, see it in writing, get the proof, and then go sailing.
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Working in most countries without a work permit can lead to your boat being confiscated or impounded and jail time for you. Working in US territories is probably not much of a problem, as you're a US citizen, but the rest of the Caribbean will be problematic.

I'd point out that YOU CAN'T BE AN EU CITIZEN...you can be a citizen of an EU member country, but that would probably not mean much except in territories of the country you are a citizen of.
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I'd think any of the French protectorates would be EU members. Most of the Caribbean are independent (or consider themselves so).

I had no problems finding work in the US and British Virgin Islands, St. Martin, St. Lucia, and Martinique. You've got to be careful about bragging about it and it helps if the company that hires you does the paperwork, but it's entirely possible to put your skills to work.
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Saint Martin, Guadeloupe and Martinique are full EU, thus you can work there. Sint Maarten is not EU and, from what I've heard, even Dutch nationals need permission to work on that side of the island.
Reunion, French-Guyana, Canaries, Ceuta, Melilla, Azores, Madeira and Gibraltar have full working rights for EU.
Apart from that the rest of the overseas territories are not directly part of the EU and thus can impose their own work regulations. That includes all of the Netherlands Antilles(Aruba, Bonaire, Curacao, Saba, St. Eustatius in addition to Sint Maarten), the islands belonging to the British Commonwealth (BVI, Anguilla, Montserrat, Cayman, Turks & Caicos), the French dependencies (French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis & Fortuna, etc.) all make their own work rules, and to be fair their citizens also do not have any reciprocal guaranteed work rights in the EU, either.

The problem is that the type of work that pays the boat-bills will most certainly be well-staffed by locals and the types of specialized work that pays well will not be found in those locations.

Saint Marten is a French Departement, you can work there. Sint Maarten is Dutch but not part of the EU thus you cannot work there as a citizen of the EU without a visa (I believe that even as a Dutch national you need to get permission of some sort). You can work in Guadeloupe and Martinique. I think that the Dutch Antilles countries are also not EU and thus a visa is necessary.

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The definitive list of countries that are full signatories and thus where you have a right to work without a visa is on the pages of EUROPA – The official website of the European Union but the clickable map is at EUROPA - European Countries
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I've always wondered about people with dual citizenship. How do they decide which country their allegiance belong to?
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Does anyone know if work permits are required in the Pacific countries? Does that mean it would be very unlikely to be an "above the table" worker if one were to be a sort of sailing hobo, traveling from place to place?
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allegiance.... that is a hard one to figure out my friend. I think my heart is always going to be in my birth country ( Italy) but if I have to be honest that after being in the US for many years I " almost " feel I am part of the group. I have much respect for the hard working people in the US and how proud Americans are. I don't think I could have done what I did in the US back in Italy, this country is truly the land of opportunities. If you want to work you will find work, you will be able to make a honest living.
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allegiance.... that is a hard one to figure out my friend. I think my heart is always going to be in my birth country ( Italy) but if I have to be honest that after being in the US for many years I " almost " feel I am part of the group. I have much respect for the hard working people in the US and how proud Americans are. I don't think I could have done what I did in the US back in Italy, this country is truly the land of opportunities. If you want to work you will find work, you will be able to make a honest living.
My question wasn't asked as a test, but to try and answer a question I've never dealt with. Thank you for your answer.
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Does anyone know if work permits are required in the Pacific countries? Does that mean it would be very unlikely to be an "above the table" worker if one were to be a sort of sailing hobo, traveling from place to place?
Yes, all the Pacific overseas protectorates require work permits.
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