international borders

[Phillgarcia]

I i'm Phillipe Garcia and i'm thinking to become a liveaboarder whithin 4 or 5 years from now.

I'm Portuguese, wath meens that I'm Europpean, and I know thath i have to make my passaport to go any were out of UE. But I'm curius who the border prosses is when you are sailing arrownd the world? By the way the boat actualy need's some kind of passaport as well or wath a cruiser liveaboard realy need's is there perssonall passaport ?

By the way i realy like to buy a cheap boat and reconstruct from inside out, you know, like costum, you have to legalized the changes like in the cars?

And can I buy a boat outside my contry ?


Sorry my english
Taks
Phill

[peikenberry]

When you enter a country you have to check in with their customs agency. All countries have what are called Ports of Entry. You go to a port of entry, put up a Q (quarantine) flag, which to the port means you need customs to come aboard. Some countries allow you to go ashore and contact customs by telephone. In most countries, once you have checked in you can go to any other port without rechecking in. There are countries that do not allow this. They require you to check in at every port. Find out before you go. In the USA you check in and get a cruising permit which allows you to cruise in the US for 90 days. I am sure some other countries have similar procedures.

You and everyone on your boat needs a passport.
You must also have documents to prove ownership of the boat. In the USA this is called vessel documentation. Elsewhere it has other names but it is basically the same everywhere. All ships and boats are issued documents for the boat. You will need these to enter other countries.
You may also need a ships manifest, that is a list of all goods on your boat. Food, supplies, liqour, etc. Especially if you have firearms. Many countries do not allow you to bring firearms into their country.

Yes you can buy a boat outside your country. It is very common to do this. But then you will have to import the boat back into your own country. To do this you need to know the import rules in your own country.

As for rebuilding a boat, whether there are rules depends on the country. If you are part of the European Union then the Recreational Craft Directive contains the rules for recreational boats in the EU. Otherwise it is up to your country.

[Zanshin]

Even as a European from the EU and from the Schengen countries, you will still need a visa in order to visit certain countries. Unfortunately, the USA is one country where everyone entering via boat still needs one, the normal "Visa Waiver Program" does not apply.

There is a website called Noonsite which lists the requirements for most countries in the world and is a very useful resources and kept reasonably up-to-date by receving appropriate information from cruisers.

Almost every country has its own forms to fill out, often with several copies. As mentioned above, one flies the yellow "Q" flag upon entry and only replaces it when all formalities have been completed. It is funny to see huge freighters and other behemoths flying a tiny little yellow flag, but even they need to adhere to the same regulations. Usually the steps to clearing in involve immigration (who check the people), customs (who check goods), those who check the paperwork (to make sure the boat paper match and the clearance out of the last port is correct and timely). If you are lucky, these functions are all done by the same person and/or in the same office. As often as not, one needs to travel all over the port to different offices in order to complete the checkin process. And then, upon leaving the country, you need to do the rounds again in order to properly check out and be able to present those papers to the next country upon arrival.

I've cleared into countries in 10 minutes (USA,St. Barths) and others have taken hours (Nevis - but mainly because I had a broken toe and couldn't walk the 2 kilometers between offices very quickly).

[celenoglu]

The taxes for importing boats to Turkey are unreasonably high and importing second hand boats is forbidden. This is generally handeled as follows:

You establis a company in USA. Register the boat to that company. The costs are very low. Check:

Incorporate in Delaware - Delaware Registry, Ltd - Delaware Incorporation services for LLC limited liability and general and yacht incorporation. Delaware resident agent services form your company in Delaware.

for details

[Phillgarcia]

Hi ..

I think understand, and this website you give me it's great ..
Jack i still can't talk with the portuguese fellow but i'll try and try becuse there some questions about portuguese taxes, yatch brokers and yatch seling spots here in portugal that i liked to know
I realy like to know the documents tha a portuguese yatch and cruising sailors need to have in order to achive the cruising sailors lifestyle.

tanks Phill

[mikel1]

Phil:... Have you checked out anything-sailing.com ? they have some very knowledgeable members from Portugal there...they should know all...

[Phillgarcia]

hi mikel

I all ready tried to speak with the portuguese sailors on anythinhg sailing forum .. I am resister but always thath I try to send a post reply this messege apears:

''Phillgarcia, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation''

can you help me ?

Tanks

[estopa]

EPA!!!

Philip como são você. Parece-se você pressionou um botão errado quando você responde à nomeação. Eu penso que você pressionou o "edit" botão.

A boa sorte em achar seu barco.

[mikel1]

Phil: They may have had some problems with the "joining the forum process" keep trying great people great sight....