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1.) if you have beer, or a buzz dont sail near me. my rub rails are teak. I like to pretend they''re decorative. Thats why I use fenders.

2.) the effect any drug, and yes, marijuana is a drug, has on you is proportionate to the person using it, and the quantity. Pot can be better, as bad, or worse than alcohal. Just pick the quantities to apply.

3.) for the record, beer can races are for beer AFTER the race. you have a few while you''re out cruising, I wont endorse it, but I wont bitch. If I get hit on a start, by one more drunk racer who didnt have their **** together enough to yield right of way, I''ll sink their ******* boat.

I like sailing. I enjoy it. I like alcohal. Hell, I like halucinagenics. (ut oh, the black helocopters are outside right now, and I typed this on a public forum ) but I keep them all in their place. and none of those overlap. You want to sail somewhere, and then get drunk/stoned/wasted off your ass till you''re praying to the porcelin goddess, or seeing dolphins talk to you, go for it, just dont do it while your sailing near me. I''ll make it a point to be a major buzzkill.

As the above point may have made clear, I''ve had some direct,personal issues with people who do and dont have their **** together with controlled (ha!) substances. Act responsibly people. If you cant give it up long enough for a sailing trip, may I strongly suggest either AA or NA. They help.

In reply to the inital post, I suggest you take a clean trip to whereever once and watch what happens before you go down there with drugs. Do that once in mexico, you''ll not want so much as a roach clip with you next time.

-- James
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Jeffamc & Roscoe,

I think it''s a great idea if you BOTH travel to other countries with drugs. Our waters will be much safer and we''ll see you in about 40 years!!
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We can argue the pros and cons of illegal drug use till we''re blue in the face. The fact of the matter is, they are illegal, and if you''re caught with them you''ll be subject to stiff fines and/or jail-time (in not so nice jails). You may even loose your boat, and in some countries - your life. :^(

If you feel certain drugs should be made legal, get politically involved to cause a change in the laws. Till then, your are legally bound to obey the current drug laws - whether you like them or not. If you violate those laws, be prepared to suffer the consequences.

Personally, my boat is for my family''s enjoyment, and not to be used as a bumper for a drunk or high boater that can''t control their vessel. If you must get high, do so where you''ll endanger no one else.

~ Happy sails to you ~ _/) ~
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Roscoe, marijuana has obviously impaired your ability to reason.

You say marijuana doesn''t impair your ability to function, and, in the next breath you admit that 20 minutes after you eat a pad of marijuana-laced butter "you won''t care." When you operate a car or a boat, you can''t be lethargic. You have to "care" about things that are going on around you, like other cars and boats, traffic lights, pedestrians, shallow water, weather changes, etc.

You say, "The key [to using marijuana safely]is knowing what your body can handle and when to say when." The problem is that when you are using marijuana, your ability to reason is impaired. You don''t know "when to say when." You don''t "care" about things that would otherwise seem important.

You delude yourself into thinking that you are smarter than the cops. You suggest that you can hide marijuana by making it into butter or cooking oil, and that the cops are so dumb, they won''t catch on. Actually, the cops who enforce drug laws are specialists. They regularly attend seminars, where they learn all the latest evasions being used by druggies. They learn from other cops, and they also learn from druggies themselves.

They don''t have to catch you every time you use drugs. If they catch you once, your future will be impaired by a criminal record, if not by a jail sentence.

They also learn from blabbermouths like you, just the way I have learned about your marijuana-laced butter. Having been a prosecuting attorney for 30 years, I''ll pass this information on to the drug agents at the next seminar. We''ll be watching for your cooking oil and blueberry muffins. (No doubt about it, Roscoe... you''re so clever, the cops will never catch you.)

The shame would be if Jeffamc, who is obviously not as "sophisticated" as you with regard to drugs, would follow your "advice" and get himself into serious trouble as a result. The next time some young, impressionable person asks for your advice about drugs, keep it to yourself.
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everyone''s opinion changes as they grow older and (wiser?). Recreational drugs and alcohol are just that...recreation. Once they are important enough to make part of your life, whee you really give a rats ass there your next hooter is comin from, then maybe it''s time to look within and see if there might be a problem. Have been there and done that. Simple rules apply...don''t drink and drive (or sail). Everything you do has a consequence, so don''t bring otheres into the pitfalls of your own misteaks!
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Ahoy, Drug infested slack jawed lope eared varmits and scoundrels. I smoke more than a chimmney in winter and I drinks me ale and such to some excess always while sailing and even when I drive. Drugs in a foreign country are a serious problem which should concern everyone. Seems to me you should be thinking about how to have your mail sent to a foreign prison. I''ve consummed more narcotics than any one person should ever do and although my poor health demands ever increasing amounts of pain medication I still wouldn''t worry about getting drugs into a country ,I worries more about how to get them out!! Sure I gots a politically incorrect point of view, sure I got serious mental health issues, sure me organs are saturated with years of abuse. SO WHAT!!I ''m a Pirate and I''s don''t care.Pirate of Pine Island . Just say NO or Yes may I ahve some More?
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yea well thanks for all your advice, i just like marijuana and hallucinogenic drugs and while im away for many weeks or months i would like to use them
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i guess its alot eaiser to hide "non- natural" drugs because most are odorless and can be hidden extreamly well, even though "non-natural" drugs are alot worse or your body.
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Back to reality: I''ve dealt with, oh, somewhere in the millions in importation and conspiracies since the first of the year (no, not MY importation, but in the defense function) in cocaine, heroin and ganja. Why they import weed is beyond me, given the horticultural aptitudes of many, many Americans. You, my boy, should be more concerned about bopping around the bay and getting boarded by USCG. A joint - even a seed - might get your boat seized. Given the current raised status of "alert" I''d pass on lugging a lid around with me. With a captain''s license you can get piss tested at any time. The coast guard doesn''t need ANY excuse to board and inspect a boat on a navigable waterway of the United States of America. For some reason, I don''t drink at all on board anyone''s boat any more unless we''re on the dock, hook, or I''m off watch for the next 12 hours and staring at 8 hours of sleep. Watch out when I get to the dock, though. Catch-up is a bitch. Oh yeah. Nicotine is as addictive as heroin. Marijuana is a habitual thing, but there has never, never been any clinical studies that proved "addiction," nor any clinical studies that showed somatic or physiological effects on the order of nicotine or alcohol. My 100 ton and professional pursuits negate partaking, but, if legal, all things equal, it''ll do a hell of a lot less damage physically and socially than Johnny Walker, Jim Beam, or Bud. Sounds like some are swallowing the Nancy Reagan line and the current "you''re helping a terrorist" hogwash. The diamond and tanzanite industries go far, far beyond illicit drugs impact along those lines, as do many other "legit" businesses that the current administration wouldn''t DARE impact. Remember Noriega? Let''s see, who was dealing with him? Reagan''s CIA? Get a grip. KW
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If you need a drug to enjoy cruising, I suggest that you stay home and spend your cruising kitty on a therapist! To me, there is no better high than cruising! We''ve been out twice, the last time ended 3 years ago; and there isn''t a day that passes when I don''t daydream about it! Try getting high on life, above and beneath the surface!!
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