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Well, it was just a thought! I admire Austin for owning his own business, for all I know he owns the largest landscaping business around; and all he's asking for is a winter off...

I'm just jealous...
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Go for it, Austin. You will find that the learning and the fun is all incremental. You could either go for something you can trailor, or just store on the hard between sailing gigs somewhere in the south. Your budget is a bit tight but making it work out will be half the fun.
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Colleges won't be around in 20 (or however many) years? And I don't agree with the argument that everyone has to graduate high school and immediately go to college or that it's always easier to go when you're under 20 (or whatever). I returned to school three times (for different degrees) between 30 and 40 and I'd love to get a marine science degree if I had any aptitude whatsover for math (or for science for that matter).
How hard was it to work full time, support yourself and attend school?

I remember those as some of my least fun years.
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How hard was it to work full time, support yourself and attend school?

I remember those as some of my least fun years.
It depends a lot on one's situation. Mine might not be the same as yours.
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I certainly don't want to be the kill joy here. Have you wondered why all your friends are in college and you're not? I love Mark Twain, ( he lived in a different century) just make sure that the regret you have 20 years from now, is not that you didn't go sailing, but that you didn't go to college.

If I may, I'd like to suggest that it IS possible to do both. Get a college degree AND take time to go sailing and have fun. As a man, you will eventually ( if you don't already) have to get up everyday and go to work to support yourself and maybe your family. Trying to do that with only a HS diploma in 2012 and beyond could severely limit any future " fun adventures" you might want to undertake.

More women are graduating college today than men, and the number of women with advanced degrees have recently surpassed men holding advanced degree. Investing in yourself ( education) today will pay dividends in the future and open up more options.
Both in the ability to have fun and get a date.. ( women don't often marry down) Just saying.

BTW, it is possible to have lots of fun...well past your 20's.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

Good luck in whatever you do.

Well... I've never been the schooling type. I got my first real job when I was about 13 or 14 working for a landscaper in the summer, then I needed a winter job so I started to work on a farm which gave me all year work. Junior year in high school I worked at least 40-50 hours a week WHILE going to school, but hey, I had money for a kid my age. My senior year I signed up for syber school (which took about 2-3 hours a day, doing the minimun to pass). I got to work more, have more free time, and started my business in the spring of 2011. With a little money and a whole lot of ambition, I started A.M. Carter Lawn Care with a 1987 pickup with a $500 trailer, lawn mower and one lawn mowing customer. To make a long story short I've currently worked for 100+ costumers, most of which are repeats. I've upgraded my equipment a little with currently over $65,000 invested in less than a year, (yes, the banks helped, but not a penny was given to me)I've expanded into hardscaping (retaining walls, patios, walkways etc...), snow removal, small scale excavating, and soon radon testing. I never dreamed it would grow this far this fast, but it did and I'm not slowing it down.

Right now, work is slow unless it snows, but this summer I expect to be working 6-7 days a week. If I need to I may be opting for some summer help.

No one is going to argue that most people who go to college do better in life than someone who doesn't, but I hate for someone to think that everyone should go to college if they want to have money and do well. People with skills are becoming more valuable in this economy, because less and less people have hands on skills. I know quite a few people who went to college and are working the local "drop out" jobs because they can't find any work in their degree area, (that's got to hurt with a tuition).


If I ever meet a woman who turns her head because I don't have a degree then she's no woman I'd have any interest in. I'll probably never be rich and I'm ok with that. If I could own a sucessful business that pays my bills and allows me to have some fun every now and then I'll be happy.

Damn.... I just hijacked my own thread (is that illegal?)
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Fair enough Mike.

There's no shortage of folks that will tell people to " go for it" follow your dreams...
Tomorrow never comes. And with all due respect to Chef, sometimes tomorrow does come..again, and again..like groundhog day..and some people aren't equipped for it.
So, I just thought I'd insert a counter-point as something for consideration.

I agree that not everyone has to go to college to succeed. It sounds like you have a nice business going. I like that you are already expanding and thinking of bringing on help in the summer. If you're going to grow the business, eventually you'll have to hire people who are willing to work as hard as you. That's often the scariest part...having to make a payroll.

I was offered a great job with good money...freshman year of college ( I too was tired of schooling) and I jumped on it. It took me almost 10 years to get back to school and I had to work full time and go to school. I'm retired from business now, and am teaching at a University, so consider my early comments a little biased. I see how competitive it is for my seniors looking for work. I'll leave it there. Because this is a sailing thread!

So, go sailing and have some fun.

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Tomorrow never comes. And with all due respect to Chef, sometimes tomorrow does come..again, and again..like groundhog day..and some people aren't equipped for it.Tempest
To my friend Tempest I ws using the idiom is this case about tomorrow never coming. Life is short, sometimes when you look at things and put them off...you never are in the position later or have the oppertunity to do them.

Prov. When the day arrives that you are now calling "tomorrow," you will call that day "today" and a different day will be called "tomorrow." (Therefore, you should not resolve to do something tomorrow, since that day will never arrive

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Is there any good books or articles to start with. Thanks again,
Austin

I like this one to start with useful and the author is clear

How to Buy the Best Sailboat

if you are considering a multihull, I like Thomas Jones ideas and philosophy towards boats and multihulls in general

Multihull Voyaging

I used these links because they are handy. I never buy new books and you can check Abe's Books to compare pricing and shipping.


Here is a website that will help you understand the differences between monohull sailboats and things to consider Carl's Monohull Sailboat Calculator

Here is a link to technical articles on multihulls Multihull Technical Article

Just remember there are a lot of 2 legged predators still walking the planet, be safe - you'll have a great time
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