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Just buy chateau de cardboard. The boxed wines, especially Chilean, are OK. The bladder can be used for floatation.
You really have to be careful with chateau de cardboard ... especially the 'stuff' made from Chinese grape 'concentrate' and force filtered will (sadly) have an expiration date on the box (somewhere) and this date is invalid if the storage space where you keep it goes above ~72°. With the water temperature in S. Florida and all the way down the islands at a toasty 80+, box wine (with expiration dates) doenst have much of a chance of not turning into a vile 'vinegarish' evil fluid ... and much earlier than the expiration date.

Good filtered whites in glass bottles are stable; Reds of course cant be filtered/stabilized and therefore you have to let them 'rest' a few days before opening.
Some 'boats' have the gall to install small 12vdc 'wine cellars' for storage in the tropics .... quite ostentatious but it really works.
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I have a locker in the galley floor that I've left empty just for this purpose. It will hold about one case of wine on its side. I would just drop a box in there, but the opening is oddly shaped.

The theory is that the temp will always approximate the water temp. In the shoulder seasons, that would be fine here. However, water temp at the dock will easily get into the high 70s in the summer. I suppose we would only put wine down there that we expected to consumer that season, so it shouldn't be a problem to be over temp and still much better than the 90 degrees it will rise to in the cabin when we're away. Anything over 80 will cook a wine on the spot.

Nevertheless, building the racks hasn't risen above other projects yet, as it doesn't seem perfect. To date, we just buy and drink what we want each weekend.
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I have for lack of better term, found some "tinker toy" style wood wine racks at a kitchen store. so mad the rack to sorta fit in a area below the saloon cabin seat. I can fit 6 bottles or there abouts, with out them moving, breaking etc.

I do agree with some above, glass is a pain in the boat.

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Actually, I think there are some "better" (depending on your definition of better, I mean better than in the past and very drinkable) wines being sold in a box.

Also, some of the boxes are getting all trendy and funky so consumers won't feel so weird about it.

The bonus is that the bladders don't allow air or light to get to the wine so it lasts much longer after opening.

It's a great solution for boaters.
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Sounds like the consensus is sample wines locally, carry a small stash of the good stuff, lay in substantial rum for the long haul. Yup, that works
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Quite frankly, if you have any more than a "small stash" of the good stuff, you didn't spend enough on your last refit.
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Since the original question included crossing international boundaries I thought I would share my experience.

I always list alcohol as part of ship's stores labeled "for personal consumption."

I have a liquor locker with a locking hasp. I've had a couple of customs officers look at it, but no one every asked to seal it.

I have two places to keep padded wine bottles. Neither is great from a wine storage point of view but okay for a few nice bottles for special occasions while cruising. Most of the wine is boxed stuff stowed under settees in the aft cabin with the emergency water.

I've never been charged duty despite having well over the allowable import amounts and declaring everything.

Food is a different matter. I've a number of items seized for incineration. Now I do a better job of using up fresh fruit, veg, and meats before clearing in.
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We haven't had to cross any borders yet, but here's what we do for beverages aboard:
First of all I don't like any glass on board, so our wines are in boxes , our spirits are in nalgene or plastic bottles and beer is tinned.

For red wine (which we mostly drink while aboard as refrigeration isn't an issue) we took a neoprene lunch bag similar to this:


and cut at cauterized a hole in one corner.

The bag will hold a 4-litre wine bag easily. We push the spout of the wine bag through the hole we made in the corner and hang the bag from a hand-rail in the cabin. This keeps the wine accessible, easy to pour, and we don't have to deal with the soggy boxes. We call this contraption the 'Wine Tit'. It get's rave reviews when we have guests aboard.

For spirits I got these nalgene water bottles:



I use a green one for scotch, a red one for rum and a blue one for vodka. So far they have worked well: don't leak, don't break. One funny thing was that last year a friend came out with me. He used the same blue bottle for his water. He inadvertently grabbed my vodka and took a swig. Hilarity ensued!

As I said, beer in tins. I usually have Guinness aboard. I can keep it cool easily enough and it tastes better that way. If I'm going on an extended cruise I will have an additional 5-day cooler aboard for meats etc.. Any beer or white wine that needs to be well chilled goes in there.
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I was amazed at the lack of durabilty of beer cans in the bilgadare. Tiny abrasions and bilge pump. Even worse was the loss of tonic water.
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I was amazed at the lack of durabilty of beer cans in the bilgadare. Tiny abrasions and bilge pump. Even worse was the loss of tonic water.
You're right about that. I had a Kilkenny explode on me when I put it into an ice-cube-filled cooler. It wasn't on my boat so a bit embarrassing.

I have a 110v/12v/propane cooler that I hold my beer in. It's plugged in for shore power. When underway or away from the dock I just let it stay cool and keep those things that don't need to be refrigerated (butter, juice, Guinness etc.) in it. Knock wood, but I haven't lost one yet....
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