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Alway...Au Contraire...fines have and continue to be levied...in 2002 this appeared in cruising world. "Michael" had sailed his boat to Cuba and received a $7500 fine....

Bring On the Lawyers
For years, the Center for Constitutional Rights in New York City (www.ccr-ny.org) has accepted Cuban travel cases like Michael’s, but a recent backlog of more than 400 such cases became so heavy it began referring people elsewhere.

Whole article: http://www.cruisingworld.com/article...ID=419&catID=0
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Cuban Cruising Guide

I found Nigel Calder's Cuba: A Cruising Guide an excellent source of information, although it may be somewhat dated now. He is not an American so that may make it even more relevant for you.

I left from Bahia Honda in the Keys mid morning and arrived at Veradero early the next morning (escorted by the friendly Cuban navy). We cleared at Veradero and found the process very easy. Everyone was courteous and cooperative. The marina was very nice and very deserted. I bought charts from Bluewater prior to my departure but found them somewhat sketchy on detail (I think they were Soviet). At the time they were the best available and may still be.

If I weren't a US citizen, I would go in a heartbeat.
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Hellosailor, I did not mean to imply you were condoning or recommending a trip to Cuba. I was just suggesting that his BEST BET was to forget about going to Cuba at this time and don't bother writing the State Department.
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Waverider,

I do not want to sound "mean" when I say this. For those that have read my threads in the past, please understand it is not my style at all. But I would not make "light" of visiting Cuba. I am sure you will be fine and they will love the money. They are not going to mess with a Canadian... they even love Americans. But being as you are Canadian and probably have not known a lot of Cubans that risked their lives to cross the stream in a boat I would not use as a Dink in a lake, I would say be thoughtful of a small nation that has moved to Florida to escape unimaginable cruelty.

I have known many Cubans, and the name of Castro is synonimous with Satan (to use Chavez' line). To compare him to Bush, hate Bush or not, is so far off base I cannot even comment further.

Don't ask an American what happened... ask a Cuban that has been exiled from their home. And PS, when you visit Cuba and give them your money, you keep that oppression alive. I would love to go to Cuba, and could have coutless times. My reason for not going had less to do with the rules imposed by my country as supporting a regime of oppression and cruelty. Again, don't take my word for it... ask a Cuban in Florida. But I would not speak highly of Castro around them if you value your life, Canadian or AMerican.

- CD

PS I told you earlier in the thread how the people I know have made Cuba. Fort Myers, then Tortugas, then across the stream. 121 miles offshore to Tortugas, I think Cuba is 61 south of that. Others may have other suggestions.
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Waverider Be advised that according to the article in Sail Magazine, referred to in Hellosailors post above, the regulations apply to you as well. If you are going to go to Cuba do not advertise it and come back via some other country like the Bahamas. The US government takes very seriously trading with the enemy, whether you agree or not and the consequences are severe. Don't piss them off.
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TXS-Alamo,

Nah. Fidel is just waiting until Bush leaves before he dies. The final crusade, HAHA. Of course, I have heard his brother or whatever is even worse than he is.

TXS - You were a judge, correct? You ever precide over anything like that?
No, just over 280+ jury trials on Capital murder, regular murder, rape, armed robbery and a host of other felonies. Admiralty and International Law are all in the lap of the federal zorro suits.
As to Waverider's comments on the US and Bush, I wonder why no one ever thinks of Canada as an important country? Could it be that they stand for nothing?
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TXS, what are you trying to say?
Don't show your ignorance when it comes to world politics. US education is sorrily lacking on anything going on outside its borders. Its would be best if you kept your erroneous ideas to yourself than prove how badly you have been eduacated.

As for waverunner he's a Leaf fan - enough said. Go Sens Go
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Hey Txs. One of the many great things about being Canadian is that you don't really need to care what some guy from Texas thinks or doesn't think about your country. You just know that it is a great country and that it truly stands for many of the things that America puports to. You should visit sometime if the boss will let you!
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Waverider

(I apologize in advance for the many misspellings & the multiple postings. I wanted to make sure that he got it, though...)

Waverider,

I am amazed. I am really amazed at some of the the things you have said. Why do you say things like that?

It is obvious to me that you have the maturity level of someone about 15 years old. I have not cruised as much as many people on this forum, but quite a bit. The one common theme we all have had is the ability to get together and have fun. We don't see nationalities or scream about George Bush, or whatever. I love my country. It does have problems, many of them. But let me tell you one thing about the typical AMerican you so quickly have addressed as worthless & uneducated, we care for people and we try to do the right thing. THe right thing does not always turn out correctly. The right thing is not always easy. But better to try and fail than never to try at all. Right now, as we speak, there are Americans losing their lives or being seriously wounded in a country that is not theirs, for a people that I am not sure even care about them (or each other). To even insinuate that they (troops) are over there doing mass murder is ******** (excuses my language). I do not doubt that there are a lot of special interst groups/people with hidden agendas - what war has not had them? But 99.99% of AMericans and I would wager 100% of the troops are over there because they believe in what they are doing to try and help others. They have integrity and care for human life. I support our soldiers other there 110% - regarless of GB or whether the war can ever be won. Any of you soldiers (whether British, Aussie, or any other nationality and especially AMERICAN) reading this, thank you for what you do. And understand one more thing: I did not say I want the war or George Bush.

I love Canadians, and Canada, and Cuba. I have met some awesome people in Jamaica, Brazil, and sooo many other countries... and never once have any of them even slightly shared the anamosity you have. You embarrass your self and you embarrass your country. America and Canada have been friends for a very long time.

The problem with the internet is that people will say things here that they would NEVER say in person. As for you, Waverider, let me just tell you that you will be the most lonely person in the most crowded anchorage. Read this very carefully, if you read nothing else: Cruising is about understanding different people and differnet cultures and coming closer to nature and what life really is all about. That is what I have tried to instill in my children, and still do. Too bad you did not learn that. Maybe there is still time... or it will be the quickest cruise you ever heard of. ANd if you hate my coutry and my people sooooo much, than don't use our technology, don't cross our borders, and stay out of our waters. Sound inconvenient? Too freaking bad. You can sail to Cuba by way of the North Pole for all I care. Tell Hugo Chavez hello on your way through.

I have spent wayyyyyy too much time on this forum when I could have been doing other things with my kids and wife or spending it just for myself. I did it because I have tried to help people & because I care about other people and cruisers in general. We share a common theme and the one thing I have always loved about sailors is thier lack of recognition of governments as what defines a country & its people. That concept, Waverider, is obviously beyond your comprehension too.

You have offended me and coutless others to be sure... and I bet they are not all American. Quite candidly, if you were one of my kids and I caught you writing some crap like you have in this and other threads, you would get a really good spanking and get grounded until you came to appreciate other people and other cultures. WHy you think it is funny to intentionally try and hurt people is beyond me. It is against anything I have ever seen in sailing or cruising.

That being said, enough time here. After re-reading through this and becoming increasingly frustrated that any of the information I have ever typed could help someone like you, l think I will start spending more time with my family and espcially my kids. Maybe I will let them re-read some of the things you have wrote so that they might learn how not to act... but then again, I think they have already learned most of that. I am done with Sailnet for a while, maybe longer.

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PS Waverider, if you are a minor, as I suspect, I do apologize about the small profanity... but that is it. Change your life and see if you can find a friend.
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Good post CD hope we don't loose you even for a little while. We need you on this forum for the help you give.
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