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Re: Difference between alcohol & kerosene stove?

Do not confuse aviation gas with jp4*(jet fuel).TRhe gas is VERY high octane>The burners are now aprox $108.with shipping.marc
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All this seat of the pants combustion engineering kinda bothers me. I've been around fuel burning equipment all my life.. I know enough about all kinds of burners to NOT be trying to do things when properly engineered fuel burning equipment is out there. Any fuel that has reached a burner is GAS.. how it's made and delivered to the BURNER is the reason people and property get hurt and damaged. Canister gas equipment is safe.. the people using it aren't.. fuel oil burning equipment has dangers also.. they just don't fail as easy to "operator error" If someone has to carry small torches or some kind of lighting fluid to light a preheater for a fuel oil burner.. the danger is about the same as having lpg on board...less the lpg sniffer, solenoid.. of course no one has ever forgot to turn the valve off after using a hand held torch. set a candle on a paper plate...made a torch out of rolled up paper... all things that caused safety engineers to develop flame sensors, thermocouples, fire eyes. (photocell) pre and post purging draft...

People please? ... just buy or obtain properly designed fuel burning equipment.. why be doing things half A$$ just to save a few bucks? You don't really think the insurance company won't find the cobbled equipment if the boat burns to the water line do you? Insurance companies are in business to NOT pay out money.. would you design a MOB system to save a few bucks and take your family out in questionable weather?

I'm not trying attack anyone.. I'm just saying.. please think. before you start modifying fuel burning equipment.. I know it all looks simple.
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Re: Difference between alcohol & kerosene stove?

Seriously... Denise,
You are correct... I could purchase a new-in-the-box diesel stove for $3,000.00 and have it installed by a "professional" for another $1,200.00 at the marina while tied up the their dock for $60.00 a day. Or, as I look at it, I can find a beautiful used stainless stove box for a couple of hundred bucks, install a nice burner system all cleanly welded and joined by yours truly, build a beautiful 3 gallon reservoir for the fuel and sail off the hook with an extra $3,500.00 in the cruising kitty. In the end, I know the entire system and can repair any part of it anywhere in the world.

Having said that, placing your faith in todays engineers and insurance companies is not for me. Having them around is one thing, even handy at times. But....

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Re: Difference between alcohol & kerosene stove?

I think if I were going for diesel stove.. I'd give Wallas a serious looking over.

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Re: Difference between alcohol & kerosene stove?

Seriously... Denise,
You are correct... I could purchase a new-in-the-box diesel stove for $3,000.00 and have it installed by a "professional" for another $1,200.00 at the marina while tied up the their dock for $60.00 a day.


Not what I was saying all.. I'm just asking everyone to be careful

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Re: Difference between alcohol & kerosene stove?

There must be some advantage in developing a resume of skills and abilities over a long period of personal growth. Includes caution and common sense. Doing it right and knowing it's right can get you sailing (watch for reefs ,rocks and hubris) For some, waiting for a poorly skilled technician and writing cheques would appear to be the way to get the dream boat out of the boatyard. Each to their own.
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Lol Capt Len.. Again, I'm just urging people to be careful.

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I don't think I said anywhere in my ramblings; "pay a professional" Because Most people that can DIY never would in most cases.

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Re: Difference between alcohol & kerosene stove?

I'm with Denise on this one.

A modicum of caution is in order when trying to re-engineer devices for combustion. My hope is that modicum of caution includes devices such as CO alarms and handy fire extinguishers. One hopes never to hear the former nor need the latter.

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Re: Difference between alcohol & kerosene stove?

We use and have always used a Taylors 030 brass and stainless, kero two burner with oven. No propane or LPG on-board. We have used propane torch in the past to light the burners, but no more propane below decks, ever. Taylors / kero is as safe as it gets and the stove is simply a work of art, old school quality at its finest.

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