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We are currently MD residents with a marina as our legal address, used the slip lease as our lease to open bank account, get drivers license and voting cards. The computer for drivers license demanded a slip # in addition to the street address of the marina but no other complications. This was all since 9/11 and the drivers license was just in the last 3 months. They want a specific location, i.e., an apartment or in our case slip number, not what they think of as general delivery to the front office - the computer at the drivers license office flagged our address as "incomplete" without the slip number. We get our mail at the marina street address without "c/o Joe's Marina" as a separate line item. Now my legal address as printed on my driver's license includes Slip F-44! Now that's living aboard!!
We lived aboard for years in Maryland and used the marina's address until 2007 when we received a letter from the DMV stating we had to have a residential address. We tried the PO box with no success, tried a UPS mailbox with no success, got fed up and went into DC to get licenses. We used the UPS mail forwarding service to get the mail at the marina, a pain and additional expense but worth it to stay aboard. One benefit was the DC taxes wound up being cheaper than the Maryland taxes so money wise it was about an even swap.

If you are a Florida resident with no income tax why do you want to establish residency in Maryland? I know a lot of snowbirds that list Florida as their official residence so they don't have to pay income taxes.
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Yeah, I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to move to MD and establish residency if they really didn't have to! And I am a multigenerational MD born native. But now live in VA.

The People's Republic of Maryland will tax you to death. (although I guess they are being efficient what with the only guarantees in life being death and taxes)

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I would find a friend and use their address to establish your residency as far as a DL then change it a few months later and use a PO box
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It is not the states it is Homeland Security they have taken control of identification of all kinds. I renewed my licence six years ago could not use the Postal Express mail box I had been using used the marinas address, tried to renew this year and they would not except the marina address. I have no drivers license. Hoping HLS has an answer.
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Re: How to establish residency for live aboard

Can't blame DHS, since each state has the option of issuing a "secure ID" that complies with DHS terms, or issuing their own document. Florida decided that all licenses would meet the DHS criteria, but NY makes it optional, they'll issue two different license types.

As to what meets the criteria for a "residence"...that's also up to individual states. And if their is no state-wide definition, it can even vary from one state agency to another.

DHS? My Passport Card is DHS-compliant. It shows no address at all. Just like a passport.
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Now,as of sometime in 2015, Florida requires livaboards to provide cg documemtation and they put your doc number as your street address on your dl. The city where you have a po box is used for your city but the street is the cg doc number.
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Re: How to establish residency for live aboard

Florida, of course, is SO close to the continental United States that it actually is mistaken for one at times.(G)

It is one of those states where there is no formal State definition of "what a residence" is. Instead, each state agency is allowed to set their own definition of residency for their own purposes--including their DMV.

So in fact, your residency for voting in Florida can be "Under the Julia Tuttle Bridge" where in fact a large number of homeless do/did reside, and won the right to use that as a valid residency in order to vote. By court order.

The Florida DMV, however, would not accept that as a residency, even though it is printed as one on an official Florida voter ID card.

Florida's accommodations for boats and boaters and snowbirds and many other things is often very illogical. But, hey, that's why this is supposed to be a Republic with each Sovereign State writing their own rules of the road. If the Rules someplace don't work? Yeah, there's 61 other places (including DC and the 11 insular possessions) that you can move to, and still live in the US. Each with its own set of rules.
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Re: How to establish residency for live aboard

Do you think it matters if we are a first-time boat owner or if we have experience to be granted a slip or liveaboard?
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Re: How to establish residency for live aboard

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Do you think it matters if we are a first-time boat owner or if we have experience to be granted a slip or liveaboard?
I doubt it.. it's more likely going to be about availability, length of waitlists (if in place) and even more likely 'who you know'. Besides, you needn't advertise your 'newness' (though it may be readily apparent)

Sometimes waitlists can be 'truncated' with some convenient connection or good timing - it's not right, but it happens and sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do if it works out for you.

Of course, if you get a slip and then commence bouncing off all your neighbours as you learn how to dock the boat it may delay becoming accepted into the community!

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