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Old 09-13-2012
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Re: liveaboard Marina del Rey, CA

there is no allowance for rentals of boats in southern cali--is considered against the law. violates a few of the marina agreements--i learned this in 1994 while attempting to flee a stalker....there are, however, many inexpensive lien sale boats at present-- good luck.

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Re: liveaboard Marina del Rey, CA

Under federal law, and international treaty only the federal government can spend it use fees ($8 a day for a boat, is to be paid to the national parks department, as set forth in cfr 36 (On going water works projects) article 327.(I think it's 30) search CFR 36 I use the electric CFR.
You are not alone, Most LA county employees think the county owns it, But it seems to take 8 minutes for them to check with someone when I point out their name is going on federal charges, then the discharge the bill, or give the federal agency that actually has jurisdiction
But I will take the quick way, (over 200 years of law covering international, admiralty & Maritime law are not easy to quat.) As we see from the new heath insurance plan, which as the mandatory car insurance back in the 70s, that took my car insurance from $42 to $263 a year in 6 months, were appealed (Law suit filed) which lead to a US Supreme court rulings, Showing that the Supreme court is the final word. which in the case of gibbons v Ogden 1824 (read burgees summory, "I think it was steamships, supreme court and you, I think it was. I can seen you a copy). Where Chief justice Marshal wrote the opinion, stating that a state claiming jurisdiction on a navigable body of water is repugnant to the Constitution of the United states, and the court terminated all contracts issued by New York, Newjerrsy, connecticut, & road Island. (the federal definition of Navigation, is the ability to be used as inter state or national commerous. By a vessel of 10 tons or greater, can take passengers to another state or country it is international comerous).
you can take the new ferry from mothers beach, to fisherman’s village, change boats, take the Catalina express to Avalon, switch to a cruise ship & leave the country.

MDR was the property of the publisher of the LA Times 1884 - 1886, He donated it to the West Chester gun club, Chuck told me he had been run off, by a man on a bulldozer, He couldn't answer why he left knowing the club owned the property.
(If you are a member of a club, & if the club was taken to court and the club property was lost, don't you think members would hear about it? Being an international harbor, It must be under the jurisdiction of the federal government. Listening to the members, it appears the property was stolen, (My ex wife keeps telling me she will file a law suit, as a decendant of a member, or maybe like New York they bought it from the wrong Indians (I will skip the Indians claim on the area), Under the law since 1972 Pacific coast, 11th district, harbor 80.1118, Marina del rey (Name changed in 1961 by US Congress see letter west marine history in Fiji store.

How am I sure, It is a federal crime to file incorrect charges, & I'm still here. I have filed charges against anyone not a federal official claiming jurisdiction of an international harbor claimed in CODE OF FEDERAL regs title 33 section 80. including but not limited to, Consperiousy to defraud the federal government of an estimated one trillion dollars(I put in for the 15 to 30% federal bounty on federal funds), violation of 2 articles 3 sections US Constitution, 2 international treaties, 3 rulings of congress between 1993 - 2000, CFR 5, 18, 28. 33, 36, 41 Leases of federal land), 46 Shipping, 49 National parks land, impersonating a federal official, impersonating a federal officer in time of war (CFR 36 327.22), fraud, impeding the order of a federal officer, A CONGRESSIONAL CHARGE OF NEGLEGINCE (the atomic bomb of admiralty law), and many more, Oh yea I filed a complaint with the District commander stating the USCGA was teaching MDR was teaching MDR is California waters. the head of the local USCGA "who I don't think is back to using a chair" told me "he was sure, I was mistaken KNOWONE COULD BE THAT STUPIDE" .

Every ticket issued to my since 1979 was dismissed except a parking ticket I paid, because I did not have the time, even the other parking ticket was dismissed. Granted I spend 5000 hours, fighting a ticket or bill. By the way the USCG pointed out the divorce issued by the state of calf is not valid because I don’t live in the state, so the state didn’t have the authority to grant the divorce. I beleave I was in 2503 in 1973, so next year though I had worked for the Boat works before that.
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By the way property tax bills when contested, they were dismissed ( told them I would pay them as soon as they told me were the money was turned over to the us treasury department, the state tax bill was dismised and they appologized saying the LA county tax collector sent them incorrect information. I live on my boat, not a calif res. the boat is documented (federal property, sold in the state of verinia, and it wasn't worth what they claimed.

If prossecuted by the US Congress, the combined laws I have read since my history teacher told us MDR is not part of the state of calif.
I came up with about 6.6 life times per person. The
odd what changes when as the constitution,supreme court, and 3 rulling of congress 93-00 said the pertection of the us constitution ends at the median tide line & all bodies of water as fare as they can be navigated are the juristdiction of the us congress(Congress said thier law enforcment atm the USCG. )

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Re: liveaboard Marina del Rey, CA

Originally Posted by rbrasi View Post
I would like to add........ um...... (head just exploded)
I'm right behind you.

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