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Re: Tips for Living Aboard Catalina 27'

Ive lived aboard my Tanzer 27 (Same as PS-26) for over a year now...and I'm 6"4". Getting rid of all my crap was actually really liberating. I would definitely not go back. I think its a lot like living in a camper on the back of a pickup....well, a pickup that can only move at walking speed. But, it is definitely worth it!!!!
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Re: Tips for Living Aboard Catalina 27'

I've done a lot of backpacking and alpine mountaineering and it's amazing how you can go for a week or so with just what you have on your back. That makes the space and stuff I keep aboard seem down right luxurious.

Clothes and what not are easy to shove places... or even fashion a line somewhere off to the side as a clothesline. I'm sure there's room in a 27' for that stuff. I think the main area that warrants good organization is the galley. I'd make sure you have adequate space for whatever pots/utensils you have. Also, make sure you stow food in dry places and away from odors. I saw some video online where someone stuffed a loaf of bread in a lower hatch and it came out smelling and tasting like diesel fumes. oops.

I think if the galley is well thought out then the rest of the space falls in place. It's like in so many regular homes that seem centered around the kitchen. I've seen quite a few videos on youtube regarding galley modifications to maximize counter and storage space. Such as, if you really don't need two burners you could swap out for a one burner and open up space for keeping the pots/pans next to the stove.

It's also about your taste and the things important to you. I NEED my coffee but I'm not a fan of instant, so aboard I use something that I originally bought for backpacking. It's an H2Joe.. I'm sure you can google it or find it on REI or other such website. It's fits into a standard 1L nalgene bottle. Fill it with grounds, fill the bottle with hot water, pop it in, wait about 4 minutes, then take the H2joe out and you've got fresh coffee. I use it at home all the time too... It's light, takes up hardly any space, doesn't use filters or electricity. Just provide hot water. It's about $12 and a nalgene is about $10. There are other compact french presses out there too if you'd prefer.

At any rate... there are lots of ways to get around limited space. I often come back from the backcountry and realize there's a lot of stuff in the house I should probably put on craigslist...

Good luck!
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Re: Tips for Living Aboard Catalina 27'

Learn how the U.S. Navy requires is sailors to "fold" their cloths. The approach is to minimize storage space, and permit item to be sucked through a discharge pump in the case of a flooded compartment or sink to the bottom of the compartment. Strange but logical.
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Re: Tips for Living Aboard Catalina 27'

Based on the tone and content of your last couple of posts, I can't for the life of me imagine why anyone would want to waste time trying to come up with helpful or creative solutions for you in the first place.

We're all dense? Really? You're the one who signed on here asking for help. Sounds like you already know more than everyone else on the board so why did you bother?
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Re: Tips for Living Aboard Catalina 27'

She's a beauty., Smackdaddy. Very nice job!!
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Re: Tips for Living Aboard Catalina 27'

I'm in a similar, much more open-minded and enthusiastic situation, compared to the OP. I have the 3ft bigger sibling (Catalina 30). Difference being things like, I don't want to start installing too much storage shelves that may negate the reason that space was put there, or make my boat more of a closet rather than a functionial-sailing-island-of-enjoyment. Also, I have been saving for and looking forward to living aboard for the last 7 years. It's not a decision I was rushed into, or made for purely 'romantic ideas of sailing lifestyle' reasons either.

Anyway, another benefit and difference is that I've afforded about 2 months of still living on land, until the lease expires, while the boat is docked a mile downhill. I know.. pretty sweet deal. So I've been able to take my time and measure the storage bins I want, pack what I want to bring with me, and what I will be taking to family during Thanksgiving and leaving in a garage.

My suggestion regarding living on it, is to at least get a marine electrician in there to update wiring to be suitable for whatever appliances (Microwave?) and things you need (GFCI outlets?). Hopefully you have facilities on shore for showering, maybe a storage locker. My greatest fear is electrical- it's the only thing I don't know much about -that something will spark and create a fire, or draw too much power and screw up everything. Might be a couple hundred dollars but you'll learn a lot watching the person, and have a piece of mind. Get a small dehumidifier. It heats the boat, but not too much, and helps keep it dry.. they're like $40 and run 24/7.
Something I think I'll do is run a heavy-duty outdoor power cord (with circuit splitter at the end, like you see at computer desks) from my dock box, alongside my shorepower cable, and into the cabin and plug in extras into that. For example, my TV/DVD, charging my laptop, a fan while I sleep, etc., and thereby cancel out relying on my outlets as much as possible... just a thought.

As for storage, smaller bins are better, if you can work fitting your things in them, because when the time comes to move them out of an area -to work on something- it's nice to be able to spread the stuff out whether than have 2 or 3 enormous bins that need to be piled somewhere in the way. It the C27 has little nook/cranny storage space along the inside of the hull, I would definitely get water resistant/proof bags and store things that you don't need often in there. I bought these large zip-lock zipper bags that are meant for storing bedding, they're huge, they can be bent and stuffed into the oddest shaped storage areas.

I guess one important thing is whether you plan to sail often or not. That will dictate how much you keep on the boat and how you organize it. If you want to sail a lot, but don't want to spend an hour+ of time moving things around to get to safety items (life jackets, paddle?, docking pole, whatever) then it takes a lot of creativity. I am trying to keep the rear of my boat reserved for sailing-specific gear (cockpit cushions take up 30% of it, and my surfboards take 30% because it's the only place they fit) because it is easy to access when I go down below while sailing. Then the V-berth is where my personal items are in bins (a couple of shoe-box sizes, and a couple shallow, long ones that are designed to slide under beds). The dining table is going to be my bed, add a cushion across the isleway resting on properly-heighted storage containers, and laying sideways its beam-length it's larger than my queen bed. That's the plan, at least.

Living aboard successfully and functionally expresses the persons tolerance for small spaces (even on 40,50,60,70ft boats) as well as their creative intuition for solving problems that erupt from it. It's REALLY awesome to see people do it well. It's going to be hard to liveaboad cheaply, so I hope that's not why you're doing it, and to sustain that lifestyle that makes it fun to liveaboard, unless you're able to churn out an amount of money that is likely more than if you rented a studio on land.

I certainly hope you (the OP) are able to make it work, sounds like you're creative and a DIYer so the storage thing might just take trial and error until it's comfortable. Excited to start following your site about real liveaboards too, can't wait to join it.

I guess if none of this is helpful to you, at least other forum readers got to know me a little and reference how I'm approaching the liveaboard-space solutions, these posts stay on here for years don't they? Make your goal to make it appear as organized as smackdaddy's pictures, but still be able to be living on it every day.
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I own a C27 and when it comes to thinking about living on it full-time, all I can say is....you're a much braver chick than I am.

You really should look up the member cktalons on here and read her blog. She's done it very successfully on a 30-footer I think.

http://www.courtneykirchoff.com/
Thanks for posting a link to this blog! It is a great read. I'm in the middle of doing exactly what she did and it is very refreshing to hear it from someone else.
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Thanks for posting a link to this blog! It is a great read. I'm in the middle of doing exactly what she did and it is very refreshing to hear it from someone else.
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Re: Tips for Living Aboard Catalina 27'

Beautiful boat, Smack.

I was going to buy a Catalina 27 Tall Rig from a buddy who lived aboard her for years and has burned out on the liveaboard thing. Just too much to do to get her to look like Smack's boat. I'll stick with what I have. I do evenings and weekends very comfortably on my 23 footer. Like being in a submarine.
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