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Re: Galley counter top material

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I have butcher block counters in my house (Ikea). Generally we like them but you can't set anything ferrous on them or there will be a permanent stain. Regular tin can? Circular stain. US dime? Circular stain. Cast iron pot lid? Circular stain.

The above stains are actually the only ones we have since we've gotten careful with not putting ferrous metals on the counter. Problem is if you let someone else cook in your kitchen....

What I'd like to use when I re-do my boat's galley is use copper flashing over plywood. I've seen several restaurants that use copper for their table tops and I think it looks great! Seem to me that it would have all the utility of restaurant stainless but look much more ship-like and homey. Copper is antibacterial on contact as well....

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Copper has a lot of bad taste it can add to food. Note how copper pots are only copper on the OUTSIDE where the food doesn't contact it. It's also toxic - that's why they put so much of it in bottom paint.
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Copper has a lot of bad taste it can add to food. Note how copper pots are only copper on the OUTSIDE where the food doesn't contact it. It's also toxic - that's why they put so much of it in bottom paint.
Copper bowls are routinely used by cooks and bakers for whipping eggs and egg whites. Copper kettles are also used in candy making, among other things. And I do believe that these bad boys have just a tiny bit of copper in them:


Copper is toxic, to marine invertebrates. That's why it's used in bottom paint. However, unless one inhales copper dust, it's pretty safe for humans to touch, handle, hold, and even fondle metallic copper. Just ask anyone who has ever handled a penny.
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Re: Galley counter top material

Do you mean flashing used in roofing? Copper is a soft, ductile metal, flashing is particularly so and is thin for easy bending to conform to corners. I expect you'll have a problem with denting if you use it. If you really want to use copper, then get something thicker and harder than pure copper. I'd take a look at Beryllium Copper alloys since they are both harder and resist corrosion.

There's also the issue of cost and availability. I would expect to pay around $100 a square foot for 1/8" copper sheet, more for a sheet of Beryllium Copper alloy.

I'd recommend using aluminum instead. It is widely available in a number of sizes and thicknesses. I would use 1/8 or 3/64 sheets to resist denting. This page from The Metal Store online catalog shows you the price of various sizes of 3/64" smooth aluminum sheet. 24" x 36" x 3/64 is under $30.00 US, while the same size in 1/8" (the thickness of aluminum deck plate) is $67.00 US. The metal store is just an easy-to-find example from Googling. There are lots of other places to choose from -- doubtless some are cheaper than this.

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Re: Galley counter top material

Laminate in a granite pattern; pix here:Life Afloat Archives: Small-Space Living ... Afloat This was done 5 years ago and we've lived aboard, full-time, ever since. Trivets and cutting boards are a must, but overall, this has been a very durable, easy-care solution. Inexpensive, and comes in a vast array of color and pattern.
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Re: Galley counter top material

Copper bar tops look nice, but they are always dented. I've seen them intentionally distressed when installed, so the inevitable denting blends. The tell tale, dimpled half moon impression from a beer bottle base are common, once the public has at one. I would assume, you would get the same aboard.

Maybe the copper is just polished, but they seem to have a sealant on them. I've never seen one turn green from all the moisture, which makes me think they are sealed.
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Do you mean flashing used in roofing? Copper is a soft, ductile metal, flashing is particularly so and is thin for easy bending to conform to corners. I expect you'll have a problem with denting if you use it. If you really want to use copper, then get something thicker and harder than pure copper. I'd take a look at Beryllium Copper alloys since they are both harder and resist corrosion.

There's also the issue of cost and availability. I would expect to pay around $100 a square foot for 1/8" copper sheet, more for a sheet of Beryllium Copper alloy.

I'd recommend using aluminum instead. It is widely available in a number of sizes and thicknesses. I would use 1/8 or 3/64 sheets to resist denting. This page from The Metal Store online catalog shows you the price of various sizes of 3/64" smooth aluminum sheet. 24" x 36" x 3/64 is under $30.00 US, while the same size in 1/8" (the thickness of aluminum deck plate) is $67.00 US. The metal store is just an easy-to-find example from Googling. There are lots of other places to choose from -- doubtless some are cheaper than this.

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Boy, youse guys are sure desperate to avoid good old practical, cheap & easy laminate.

One of the best looking countertops IMHO is a black suede finish laminate. Costs about $50 for a fairly big galley.

You can also get laminate with S/S. aluminium and copper finishes - actual metal foil laminated on the top surface.
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Re: Galley counter top material

I installed stainless panels next to my cooktop in my house 10 years ago. The are inlaid into the wood countertop, also 10 years old. The idea was to have a place to place pots without scratching or burning the wood top. Well, that worked, sort of. The stainless would heat up so much that it would expand and then "pop' itself out of the inlay it was glued into.

So if you do overlay your existing top with stainless, don't glue it and allow for expansion should you leave a hot pot on it.
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Re: Galley counter top material

Copper is available in all kinds of thicknesses. My local restaurant has tables that are made of pretty thick stuff and not dented. It's probably 1/16" or more. You would need tools and force to dent it.

Copper Sheet, Copper Flashing, Copper Sheets, Copper Foil Rolls, Copper Sheeting for Arts and Crafts and Various Applications These guys seem to have it all including a thickness guide with a video showing you the flexibility of different thicknesses.

As for the toxicity issue... remember everything is toxic. The poison is in the dose. The "toxicity" is actually a plus because it is antibacterial. So the salmonella from the raw chicken I put on the counter might not linger there if I don't clean it up well enough.

As for the taste issue, France (where they KNOW food) has lots of copper pots in use for various specialty cooking applications. Most of the time though I would be cutting food on a wooden cutting board anyway so if I set my food on the counter for a minute or two I don't think it'll affect the taste.

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ss counters would mean being able to chop/mince and slice stuff easily without a cutting board.....easy clean and no 5 yr change out..LOL
Pretty hard on knives,,,,,,
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Re: Galley counter top material

Another alternative is soapstone (saratoga soapstone) kinda in between a corian and granite, very elegant looking
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