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Re: Looking to Purchase Cheoy 38 Offshore & Looking 4 Advice

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If you are talking about a Cheoy Lee 38 Offshore, I would check out the Cheoy Lee association website as suggested for information that is reliable. I have owned a 1980 Cheoy Lee offshore 38 for 5 years and have had no problems with mine. These are very well built boats and many have made the journey around the world. Good examples that are ready for sailing are generally selling for 45-55K

They were not built in the far East to my knowledge rather they were built in the then British Hong Kong Cheoy Lee Shipyards. They claimed to be built to the Loyds standard.

There is lot's of Teak both on deck and below. Like most boats with Teak decks properly maintained will not leak. The teak Decks can be removed and I have seen a few that this has been done to -certainly an option if the decks are to far gone to repair.
Last time I looked at a map Hong Kong was in the far east. While it was a colony of the British, it was located in the Far East, and is of course now part of China. I believe they have moved there shipyards to Mainland China now.
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Re: Looking to Purchase Cheoy 38 Offshore & Looking 4 Advice

I have a 1977 41 offshore with teak decks that don't leak.
It has had some issues the chain plates need to be inspected they have a tendency to corrode,I have replaced the engine perkins 4-108 and up graded many systems elctrical 12V and 110 DC plumming etc.Its a labor of love I don't want a newer boat,this one sails like no other in big wind and waves.Its safe and comfortable not fast. Fortunately it has a modern in mast roller furling and roller furling head sail with a large inventory of sails.
I love Cheoy Lees there the prettiest boat in the harbor if well mantained.
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Re: Looking to Purchase Cheoy 38 Offshore & Looking 4 Advice

Hi again. Looking at the replies I see a lot of concern about Teak decks, Far East builders and performance of the CL Offshore 38. So I thought I would offer my views on these.
1. My 38 was with me from the day it was built in 1979 until I sold it in 1994. I had no problems with any structural element in the boat. No leaks from the deck,no leaks at the chain plates, no leaks at the hull to deck joint.
2. It was, as all Cheoy Lees were in those years built in Hong Kong on Lantau Island. I was in the yard every Sat and Sunday watching it get built. My presence had nothing to do with the quality of the boat. I just wanted to watch. I sailed it away from the yard. I sailed it in Hong Kong for a year and they shipped it back to Seattle and sailed it there for a number of years and finally to San Francisco where I sailed it on the Bay---usually in 25 to 30 knot winds.
3. The early "pretty" clipper bow CL's were good for sailing in strong winds as they were very heavy displacement boats with bow to stern keels. The Offshore 38 was a modern design by Ray Richards and had a cut away keel with a skeg hung rudder which made the boat track like an arrow ( a straight one) and allowed it to be very responsive to the helm, would sail in slop and in a whisper with great performance.
4. The boats that have given boats a bad name in the Far East are all built in Taiwan or China by Taiwanese or Chinese companies that come and go. The current yard of Cheoy Lee has moved to China and is still owned and managed by the Lo family. The yard builds modern high end motor yachts now. It s set up as a very technological modern plant run by well educated highly experienced members of the Lo family ( I think the third or fourth, maybe fifth generation since Cheoy Lee was founded in Shanghai) and produces some of the finest high end motor yachts on the water. Unfortunately the margins on motor yachts are much better than on sail boats so they do not make sail boats anymore.
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