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Re: I am 26, and seriously considering moving aboard with my girlfriend. Any advice?

Definitely go for it. I managed to stay free until 30. I was/am fiercely independent. Unfortunately/fortunately I met a woman with my same sense of independence and adventure.

We now happily live aboard our boat in Portland, Maine. We did the house thing, almost bought a marina and then went through our mid life crisis. We had a few close friends our age pass away and it made us realize there could be a bus out there with our names on it. So we have been living on our Caliber for 2 1/2 years preparing her and our cruising kitty to go long term cruising.

We love our 12v diesel hydronic heating system. The boat is very evenly heated and very comfy. I am sitting in shorts and T-shirt right now while typing this. It is in the 20s outside. We can use it at anchor so it greatly extends our cruising range from April to December.

Saving by getting an older boat is not bad as long as the boat does not need a complete refit. We went a little smaller and newer as we had a good idea what we wanted after owning a Pearson 28 and an Ericson 35.
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Re: I am 26, and seriously considering moving aboard with my girlfriend. Any advice?

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I'd double check the finances, considering that the boat will lose value over time.
You do need to understand how marketable the boat you purchase will be when you are ready to sell - buying a house or trading up for another boat, whatever. Some designs hold their value longer than others, multihulls tend to be those types. However they are going to cost more to berth.

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Re: I am 26, and seriously considering moving aboard with my girlfriend. Any advice?

I'd like to add another point... diesel heat.

I spend time on the boat on weekends in the winter, doing cleaning, repairs, upgrades, whatever. I find myself wishing for a diesel heater. I think if I lived aboard, I'd definitely get one. And it would be the kind that sucks in flue-warmed air through an extra tube-in-the-flue, then exhaust goes out the normal part of the flue. Then there's no moisture build-up from exhaust gasses going into the boat.

Interior heat slowly pumps moisture - from cooking, showering, breathing, etc. -- out of the boat. (The warmed air absorbes extra moisture, and as that warmed air flows out a vent or cowling, out goes the moisture.)

Being cozy and warm has a lot of value. And women seems especially fond of it.

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Re: I am 26, and seriously considering moving aboard with my girlfriend. Any advice?

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Thanks for all the advice though guys, this has been very informative and has helped shape my decision making process.
Good luck. At your age I lived aboard a 22' O'Day with my wife. So I've got nothing to say.
I was very skinny in those days.

A couple more data points before you pull the switch.
Check on rules for loans and insurance when it come to live-aboard.

If you have a dirt side address you can use, sometimes those rules can be bent but often there are issues if your lender or insurer knows you plan on living aboard.

I'm sure you got pre-approved already but as you go for an older boat the lenders will require collateral other than the boat.
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Re: I am 26, and seriously considering moving aboard with my girlfriend. Any advice?

I understand the heat issue,
but I have to ask, what do you plan on doing about fresh water?
There is a local marina here that bubbles the docks as well and they invite live-aboard but I always wondered what they did for water.
Certainly you have to winterize your systems even with heat on board.
And what about the head?
Are you going to use the shore facilities every time?
Even if you could use your head, how are you going to pump it?
I can't imagine having to bundle up and walk through snow and ice just to use the head or take a shower.
Maybe you will have to keep a bucket on board for emergencies.
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Re: I am 26, and seriously considering moving aboard with my girlfriend. Any advice?

I visited one liveaboard community that has a fresh water line running below the ice. I believe it had a T connector going to each boat. Not sure how it got above the water and into each boat. Perhaps up over the side and with it always slightly on? Perhaps through a through hull and into a sink drain?

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Re: I am 26, and seriously considering moving aboard with my girlfriend. Any advice?

We have a hose run from the dock house that is capped on both ends and submerged. We pull up both ends and fill the tanks. Many live aboards here share the hoses and tee of at their boat. With 175 gal capacity we do not fill very often.

We walk the dog every morning regardless so stopping off at the shower is easy. Our boat is 50 ft. from the dock house so using the shore toilet is not a big deal. Obviously you go right before bed and try to make it through the night. You can always pee in a bucket and empty it in the morning if needed.
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Re: I am 26, and seriously considering moving aboard with my girlfriend. Any advice?

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I understand the heat issue,
but I have to ask, what do you plan on doing about fresh water?
There is a local marina here that bubbles the docks as well and they invite live-aboard but I always wondered what they did for water.
Certainly you have to winterize your systems even with heat on board.
And what about the head?
Are you going to use the shore facilities every time?
Even if you could use your head, how are you going to pump it?
I can't imagine having to bundle up and walk through snow and ice just to use the head or take a shower.
Maybe you will have to keep a bucket on board for emergencies.
That is EXACTLY what they do at the marinas I am looking at. Showers and Head are not used on the boat at all from October through May (April if I'm lucky).

Fresh water is available when ever its not freezing out.
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I understand the heat issue,
but I have to ask, what do you plan on doing about fresh water?
There is a local marina here that bubbles the docks as well and they invite live-aboard but I always wondered what they did for water.
Certainly you have to winterize your systems even with heat on board.
And what about the head?
Are you going to use the shore facilities every time?
Even if you could use your head, how are you going to pump it?
I can't imagine having to bundle up and walk through snow and ice just to use the head or take a shower.
Maybe you will have to keep a bucket on board for emergencies.
Normally they have "water parties" where they bring out water hoses and fill tanks before it freezes. As long as you keep it over 32 you don't have winterize. There are also portable pump outs, but that is the hardest as lots of places don't offer it. Showering can be a cause of a lot of moisture so people often plan their morning to shower on the way out or after the gym. Not to bad but hey it is not for everyone. And thank goodness otherwise there would be no room.

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Re: I am 26, and seriously considering moving aboard with my girlfriend. Any advice?

my advice,... don't get her pregnant,... then what everyone else said...
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