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I'm done tring to figure out what I am, I was told not to call myself a liveaboard because officials target liveaboards thu we don't stay in one area very long. We have been up and down the coast 3 times each way including sailing miles off shore but I'm sure you call us blue water cruisiers. Just look for me where its warm. So I guess you can just call me a "Sailor" that jumped on a boat left a dock and haven't returned yet.

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We are cruisers because we will leave the dock at every opportunity. Maybe just a day sail or a weekend or a couple of weeks for now. We live on our boat and are preparing to leave our current marina some day. We never leave home because we take it with us when we cruise.
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Re: Cruiser

To me its not who you are but what your doing at the time...I sail other wise

On a Wednesday night I might be a racer?
On the weekend I might be a weekender?
On our two week sail I might be a cruiser?
If going from destination to destination for a long period of time, say more than a few months I might be on a voyage?

Then what am I when the boat is on the hard, an RV'er?

I don't know why one needs to be labeled anything? Who cares, I sure don't.

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What would you call to a guy that loves to circumnavigate non stop or a guy that circumnavigates and only stops for provisions....
Circumnavigators......

which are cruisers with a serious sailing problem.


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Re: Cruiser

If you really need to label it ... a cruiser would be someone without a fixed point, or time of return, who's boat is their primary residence.

Being a cruiser, to me, is more a lifestyle, than it is simply what you happen to be doing at that moment in time.

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Circumnavigators......

which are cruisers with a serious sailing problem.
Not a sailing problem, a cruising problem. Besides all circumnavigators are not like that, some circumnavigate while cruising and they take 3, 5 or even 10 years.

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It is really difficult to read this thread without an adult beverage in hand.
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To me, liveaboard means the boat is your full-time home (like CruisingDad, AKA Bryan). Bryan is probably the perfect example of this, because he's both a liveaboard and a cruiser. I know others who live aboard, but never leave the dock (mostly power boaters); they aren't cruisers. Dave, I'd consider you a cruiser but not a liveaboard.
Funny I don't consider Bryan (CD) or I cruisers. He lives on his boat full time, me maybe 120 days of the year. We both probably travel about the same distance each year total (2000 to 3000 nm) and both in the same waters relatively ( him coastal Florida me the Chesapeake with a 3+ week trip up the coast to New England). I am sure Bryan would disagree as he has referred to himself as a cruiser before and talks about having a cruising boat. I have a feeling its what leads to our broad disparities in what we believe and look for for performance cruising boats.


Now Gary ( traveneasy), wingnwing, killarney sailor, xort, med sailor and others I consider cruisers. But Ill bet some like Wing and Garys total mileage is close to CD and mine. So I guess mileage is not a determinant

This why I am asking others here of their opinions.

The discussion in our club was very circular in nature and none of us could come up with any set criteria ( mileage, area covered etc.) Many in the "cruising community" do not look at coastal sailors like we are at all as cruisers and have laughed at us when we join them and say we are out cruising.

One criteria we seemed to agree upon was many cruisers do not work steadily or have retired from full time careers or the traditional jobs.


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One criteria we seemed to agree upon was many cruisers do not work steadily or have retired from full time careers or the traditional jobs.
Cruisers are the ones that cruise. If you go out cruising for a month in your annual vacations, you are a cruiser, at least while you are cruising

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Re: Cruiser

Dave,
Is being a cruiser inherently exclusive of being a liveaboard in your opinion? To me, Bryan is both, because he does actually get the boat away from the dock for a fair amount of time. You aren't a liveaboard, but a cruiser. I am neither (and not just because of my current situations!).

IMHO, a liveaboard is essentially someone without a home on land. A cruiser is someone who takes their boat away from the dock/slip/mooring for more than 2-3 days at a stretch, and does so multiple times a year. Otherwise, you're an overnighter or a daysailor.

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