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Some full time liveaboards often look like they are 4-5 days of cleanup, junk removal and straightening out before they're gonna be ready for a daysail... wouldn't label them cruisers, obviously.

I think Brian would qualify, but again it will depend on your own definition.

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What is a cruiser?? I don't know. Not me. I am an Americas Cup Racer... just still waiting to hear back on the job. Not sure why it is taking them so long, really. Maybe I should not have included "Plus, I will bring my own grill!!" in my resume?

Apparently you cant just get the job with good looks and smarts.

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Funny I don't consider Bryan (CD) or I cruisers...
Then what do you consider yourself? Weekend warrior?

I have no idea what is between a day sailor and a cruiser. I fully reject that a cruiser has to be a directionless, jobless, destinationless moving sailboat. Those are boat bums.
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Then what do you consider yourself? Weekend warrior?
Not sure.

I always pictured the real cruisers as traveling to different ports. No real schedules or very loose ones.

Didn't matter ht size boat. It was a lifestyle.

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Re: Cruiser

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Not sure.

I always pictured the real cruisers as traveling to different ports. No real schedules or very loose ones.

Didn't matter ht size boat. It was a lifestyle.

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I agree on that. The essence of cruising is to sail about discovering nice places and enjoying life in a relaxed kind of way. That's why I leave the boat each year in different locations for the winter.

I go with Faster on this one: I am a summertime cruiser, I have been that all my sailing life and almost never cruised on the same regions.

Regarding winter cruising...I prefer my fireplace. Too harsh for me. I could be cruising in Brazil since it is summer out there, but I am a family men and I like to have quality time with them. Now, if I could convince them and find the (their) opportunity to do that, I would enjoy to do that with them, at least one year, I mean cruising in Brazil for the winter.

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.....I just consider us sailors.
I suppose that's it.

Although, I still don't see where some of your examples of who you think are cruisers differ from the sailing that you and I do occasionally. If I understand Gary and WingnWing, their cruises were just like ours, only longer. I leave each year with no specific plan, no reservations, fully self sufficient and nothing more than a region in mind with a bookmarks on anchorages we might use. We pick which it will be over coffee each morning. I only have a date when I must be back. Wouldn't that be exactly the same as the examples you gave, only theirs was longer? Our date is weeks away, theirs is months.

I'm beginning to wonder if some think the term cruiser is a badge of honor that must be earned or one must qualify for. I would personally find that silly. I also wonder if some think a cruiser has to fit a stereotype. Did that investment banker who cruised the Pacific on his $5mm 60ft GunBoat with satellite comm qualify? One is a cruiser whenever they are cruising (whatever cruising is, I guess). It doesn't charge my batteries to think that I am or am not a cruiser at any given time. JMO.
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I suppose that's it.

Although, I still don't see where some of your examples of who you think are cruisers differ from the sailing that you and I do occasionally. If I understand Gary and WingnWing, their cruises were just like ours, only longer. I leave each year with no specific plan, no reservations, fully self sufficient and nothing more than a region in mind with a bookmarks on anchorages we might use. We pick which it will be over coffee each morning. I only have a date when I must be back. Wouldn't that be exactly the same as the examples you gave, only theirs was longer? Our date is weeks away, theirs is months.

I'm beginning to wonder if some think the term cruiser is a badge of honor that must be earned or one must qualify for. I would personally find that silly. I also wonder if some think a cruiser has to fit a stereotype. Did that investment banker who cruised the Pacific on his $5mm 60ft GunBoat with satellite comm qualify? One is a cruiser whenever they are cruising (whatever cruising is, I guess). It doesn't charge my batteries to think that I am or am not a cruiser at any given time. JMO.
We are all sailors. What he do while sailing defines if there are or not any purpose associated with the pleasure of sailing.

I don't see why someone that uses the boat mainly for cruising while sailing has a badge of honor over a guy that uses the boat for voyaging or for training and racing or one that just uses the boat for....sailing without any other purpose.

Cruising is not only associated with sailing, you can cruise on a motorcycle, on a car a caravan a canoe or even on a bicycle. That is something that can be associated with a sailing boat or not even if a sailing boat is great for cruising.

I even have cruised on mountains with a dirt bike, using military maps, for thousands of km. Probably a not very common way of cruising but I loved the wilderness and the pleasure of cruising in a world that is rapidly disappearing, the one where very rarely you would find a soul all day but where you would be surrounded by wild animals and untouched nature.

Cruisers or racers, don't have to do it all the time, they do it when they can and some have not much time out of work. It is the way they use the sailboat that defines if they are cruisers or not, independently of the time they use it. You can even be a cruiser with charter boats.

You don't have to be a professional racer to be a racer: That depends on the purpose you use the sailboat (besides sailing). The same thing with cruisers.

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Re: Cruiser

Think it's like pornography. You know it when you see it.
Two guys want to be in the V.I.s for the winter. They both start in Marion. One guy steps on his go fast with 3 deck apes and a professional captain. Meets his wife in Caneel Bay a few days later after she flies down. Other guy takes a month off from "real life". Bounces down the east coast with his bride. Has no other plans than being north of Va. until Nov1. Then decides if to take the jump or keep running coastal with the thorny path in mind.
Who is cruising?
There's a little bar graph on the bottom of boat reviews in a sailing rag we all know. Maybe there are boats more suitable for cruising or racing but the activity is all in our mind.
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