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Is letting your kid solo circumnavigate the world irresponsible parenting? Probably.

Is T. J. Simers symptomatic of a world I don't want to live in? Definitely.
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Is letting your kid solo circumnavigate the world irresponsible parenting? Probably.

Is T. J. Simers symptomatic of a world I don't want to live in? Definitely.
So who the hell is he ? (other than a sports columnist for the LA Times ?)
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Is letting your kid solo circumnavigate the world irresponsible parenting? Probably.

Is T. J. Simers symptomatic of a world I don't want to live in? Definitely.
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So who the hell is he ? (other than a sports columnist for the LA Times ?)
Some chubby dude with quippy chops...from Illinois.

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Named 2000 California Sportswriter of the Year by the National Sportscasters and Sportswriters Association, he has been with The Times since 1990.

He was formerly the professional football writer for The San Diego Union, the Denver Broncos beat writer for the Rocky Mountain News; a college football beat writer for The Commercial Appeal in Memphis, Tenn.; sports editor for the Morristown (N.J.) Daily Record, the Beloit (Wis.) Daily News and the Coeur d'Alene (Idaho) Press, and assistant sports editor for the DeKalb (Illinois) Chronicle.

He attended Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Ill.
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Like the Mother of the DEAD 9 y o pilot said..
"She Died doing what she Loved Doing"

Bull Puckys.. Id rather have MY 9 yo, WELL and SAFE than to let her Die , doing what she Loves Doing.. what the hell does a 9 y o know , anyway..
Since When are the 9 and 16 yr olds, in charge , or have ANY Damb Sense.. :-0
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No person, at 16, 17, 18, etc., has been around long enough to acquire enough hands on experience and knowledge to make such an attempt. Of course one does not realize that untill they are at least in their 30's. In her parents case, the 30's rule apparently does not apply either.
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No person, at 16, 17, 18, etc., has been around long enough to acquire enough hands on experience and knowledge to make such an attempt. Of course one does not realize that untill they are at least in their 30's. In her parents case, the 30's rule apparently does not apply either.
This is were it starts to get tricky though. More than one sub 18 year old have now completed solo circumnavigations and the Watson girl has thus far covered over 6,000 kilometres with only one itsy bitsy collision. . (Sorry that was a cheap jibe.)

Its pretty hard to tell someone who has done 6000k offshore single handed that they lack the necessary experience.
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Without getting involved in the discussion of 16 year olds sailing around the world, Simers is a blow hard columnist. He makes a living tearing down people in his column. His column is based on ridiculing and attacking atheletes he does not like.
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OK, some folks set off to sail around the world without any real experience AND are LUCKY enough to survive long enough to get that necessary experience. ( Bumfuzzle and Slapdash pop into my head). BUT as a mother, I didn't go through pregnancy and childbirth to have the brat throw it all away in a quest for 5 min. of fame. Yeah, mine did stupid, risky stuff - but not if I was able to stop them. That's my idea of proper parenting.

Interesting side note: My oldest two have come over to the dark side since becoming mothers themselves. All that "I would let my kids do it" seems to be forgotten.

And yes the kids have more sailing experience than I do. So what. I KNOW I'm not ready for ocean sailing, let alone a circ. That's whats called maturity.
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Undine..accept my point that I am not at all convinced that the 16 year old single handed sailor is a good idea, particularly the non stop circumnavigators.

That said we have the situation where a number of youngsters have set out and as yet none of them have actually come to any harm. Going back in time we have as an example John Guzzwell, who went round in his early 20s in a 20'er. He's considered an icon not an immature fool.

At the same time we have such emminently mature individuals as the wanker in the tin can catamaran, the 85 year old brim full of maturity who was rescued this month and many other 'mature' individuals who have come to grief. Sailing legends with all the experience in the world such as Alain Colas and Eric Tabarly both of whom died at sea, and even the grandaddy of them all Joshua Slocum, have suffered worse fates than e.g Zac Sunderland but then again Bernard Moitessier died in his bed at home in France.

Meanwhile people like Tony Bullimore again brimming over with maturity make a complete hash of it time and time again.

As far as parental responsibility goes , the chances are that you will have no compunction in letting the fruit of your loins drive a car or catch an aeroplane despite the fact that both, particularly the driving, are far more hazardous (statistically speaking) than single handed sailing.

You say you know you are not ready for offshore sailing and that equates to maturity....it might equally equate to insecurity.

I'm not trying to be deliberately argumentative here. Playing devil's advocate perhaps.

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