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post #31 of 42 Old 01-22-2010
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Just in: Abby Sunderland leaves this Saturday. To top Zac, Abby's is making a nonstop circumnavigation. The remaining six siblings will solo circumnavigate in increasingly smaller boats. It is planned that the youngest will set out at the age of four in a Laser.

The only way I would let my 16-year old leave on a solo circumnavigation if I flew the entire time overhead in an airplane.

I don't doubt these are GREAT kids; special kids; but they are kids. (Have you read Jessica Watson's blog? She sounds absolutely charming.) But, isn't there value anymore to just being a kid? What's wrong with the high school sailing team? Can't they wait until they are a wee bit older or is it a matter of sponsorship? Will they disappear if they are paid no attention?

I hate to be so negative, but one of these days one of these children is going to get hurt. Will that be child abuse? One definition of child abuse in California is: "The child has suffered, or there is a substantial risk that the child will suffer, seriour physical harm or illness, as a result of the failure . . . of his or her parent . . . to adequately supervise or protect the child . . . ." (Welf. & Inst. Code, section 300, subd. (b).) How are the Sunderlands going to protect Abby in the Roaring 40s? I know they all have gone to great lengths to help ensure that Abby will be safe. The boat is equiped to the nines. But, the Titanic was no rubber boat either.

I hope one of these kids will not have to be sacraficed to stop this trend.
God bless and keep watch over these children in the sea.
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One real question is how much of this is actually being driven by the child's desire to do it versus how much is the parent's wish for them to do it. In the case of Zac Sunderland, where he owned his own boat, and has been sailing by himself for a number of years, IMHO, it was pretty clear that he was doing it for his own reasons.

In the case of Mike Perham, that isn't so clear. After all, he didn't own the boat he made the voyage in—his father chartered it; he wasn't sailing on his own for years before doing this—his only passage of significant note prior to his circumnavigation was crossing the Atlantic buddy boating with his father in two identical Tide 28 sailboats; he was "tutored" by a french professional sailor and she and two others did most of the boat prep for him IIRC.

I don't think it should be considered "abuse" if the kid is injured—if it was the kid's own idea to make the voyage... however, if the voyage was pushed on the kid by his parents, then they should clearly be held responsible. Just remember, it wasn't all that long ago that a 16 year old was considered old enough to marry, raise a family, be recruited for the local militia, etc. It has only been in the last 100 years or so where the age of adulthood has slowly been raised to 21.

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I hear Bucky should be droppin' in a month or so. He's ready to push off!

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Since it's apparently all the rage right now - and since it's getting hard to keep up with all the wee tots clamoring for a circ, I thought we might as well start this thread to keep up with the countdown to the ultimate "young sailor around the world" contestant.



His name is Bucky Blythe. He's in the third trimester. And as you can tell, he's totally stoked for the trip.

Both his parents are avid sailors - so he's obviously well prepared. The moment he's born his parents will put him on a fully outfitted Open 60 and push him southward away from their private dock in the Seychelles. What an adventure!

Glenda, his mom, says that he's been dreaming of this since gestation. Asked how she knew this she replied "Oh, you can always tell by the severity of the morning sickness. I was hurling like a penguin for 4 months straight. So he's definitely ready for the 60. He's not like most fetuses." Well there you have it.

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So now that the Sunderland family has pushed itself through the wringer and come out the other side truly soiled (man what a head shaker)...who's the next babe to take to the Horns?

Is Laura D still determined to hoist and go?

Kids and records...gotta love it.


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So now that the Sunderland family has pushed itself through the wringer and come out the other side truly soiled (man what a head shaker)...who's the next babe to take to the Horns?

Is Laura D still determined to hoist and go?

Kids and records...gotta love it.

Here is your answer smackdaddy - it will be interesting.

Dutch teenage sailor gets green light from mother - World news - Europe - msnbc.com

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I would much rather be sailing around the world than trying to recore my entire foredeck so I can sail around a 400 acre lake. Btw, smack, I'm back..
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LELO!!!!! Great to see you dude!

What have you been up to?


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I've been great, in the spring I obtained my level one sailing instructor certification, but then by summer circumstances forced me to have to move away from the coast..
so now I'm in Tennessee, missing the ocean but there are plenty of lakesxD
After I'm finished refinishing the interior and doing a few other jobs I'll be off to sharpen my light wind sailing
How have you been?

And because I'm not a thread hijacker, you have to ask yourself if you deny someone the freedom to sail somewhere, where do you draw the line?
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I've been great. Truly great.

I'm trying to get hooked up crewing on some ocean races. I'm making some progress on some Gulf racing - and I'm even making some progress on a much bigger race...but I'll have to tell you more if and when it happens.

Also I'm in the market for a spin for the Smacktanic. So life is great.

Honestly, lelo, I draw the youthful solo-sailing line at 18 (at least here in the US). I do that because I think it's any parent's responsibility to watch out for their kid until they are a a legal adult.

I love my kids too much to send them off into a seriously dangerous situation alone for more than a year by themselves...regardless of how talented and confident they are. And regardless of how much they want it.

That said, I'll go with them in a heartbeat.


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What should the restrictions be until they're 18 though? I'd be very ticked if I could be hailed at any moment for sailing alone on my lake.. I love singlehanding, it's an entirely different sport.. I'm not doing any ocean crossings, but what would you say would be a good way to enforce it? Or would it lay unenforced until someone plans something stupid?
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